That's fine, but I still think JFW should indicate the top or bottom
item if one is arrowing up or down and reaches either extreme.

Regards,
Jamal
On Tue, 23
Mar 1999, bill cameron wrote:

> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:35:40 -0500
> From: bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: More enhancements I'd like in JFW verbosity
> 
> jamal you should try this trick to avoid missing the first or last selection in
> a list box.
> 
> hit home for the first selection
> 
>  hit end for last selection.
> 
> bill cameron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:48 AM 3/23/99 +0500, you wrote:
> >I like the way Window-Eyes says "default button" when reading a
> >dialogue and coming across the default button in it.  Both
> >Window-Eyes and JFW also have a hot key to specifically identify
> >the default button on request, but I do like this automatic
> >identification in addition.
> >
> >I think Window-Eyes reads the start menu in a more logical
> >manner.  It says the title of a submenu before identifying the
> >currently highlighted option, rather than the reverse as JFW
> >does.  For example, if I press S for the settings menu, JFW will
> >say "control Panel" then "Settings" rather than identifying the
> >more general, menu title before the more specific, menu selection
> >-- a more intuitive reading order.
> >
> >Window-Eyes says "top" and "bottom" items in a list box before
> >reading those items.  JFW, on the other hand, does not say
> >anything when one tries to move past the top or bottom item.  If
> >one then presses down or up arrow to go in the reverse direction,
> >the second to the top or bottom item is said, respectively,
> >risking the possibility that one misses the topmost or bottommost
> >item.
> >
> >I think JFW should say "tab control" or "property sheet" to identify 
> >such a control.  Right now it just says "tab," which is the same thing 
> >said by default when one presses the tab key, allowing one to 
> >easily miss the identification of this control.
> >
> >I hope JFW verbosity settings are enhanced in the 3.3 release to
> >meet the high standards set by Window-Eyes.  By the way, I also
> >encourage the Window-Eyes developers to improve their product to
> >meet other usability standards set by JFW.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jamal
> >
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