--- In [email protected], Partho Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I agree to what Mr. Partho Dutta says. This is a fruitless unending 
debate. Blaming a particular community without any indepth study and 
experience is WRONG. None of the religion teaches hatred and 
violence. I feel sorry that since there's no moderation on this 
JHARKHAND NETWORK people have written things which will hurt a 
persons sentiment, belief and faith.
Instead of discussing what the administration has been doing in 
Orissa few members are writing things which is not expected on this 
forum. I seriously doubt their integrity.
I'd request the moderator not to allow such posting to appear on 
this forum.
I am proud to be a Tribal and I am also proud to be a Roman Catholic 
and so are my Hindu,Muslims, Sikh and Buddhist friends.
Let's put in our rational thinking on this forum and make it a 
better place.
B K Kachhap
 
> The first casualty is truth.
> What actually did happen? There seem to be as many versions as 
there are sides to this debate.
> And please, could this discourse continue without mindless 
throwing of labels?
> Partho Datta
> 
> Saurabh Abhishek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:                               Uplifting the lives of 
unprivileged is great and noble thing to do, but I
>  have seen enough what
>  the missionaries exactly do. The truth is far from what they say.
>  "Uplifting" essentially means brainwashing and false promises 
most of the
>  times.
>  I saying this because I have seen this innumerable times.
>  I belong to place in remote Gumla, before the missionaries 
arrived there was
>  no animosity between in the
>  ppl atleast on religious grounds, nobody actually cared about the
>  religion.The religion was the way it should be, personal and 
practiced with
>  no fanaticism. Now the so called developement  has made people to 
ask their
>  children to stay at home because its "their" festival not "ours". 
I am not
>  blaming any particular community but the for the animosity 
factor , yes I
>  blame the missionaries.
> 
>  I have seen those half educated chaps preaching that 
having "Prasad" from a
>  Hindu friend is a sin.
>  Sad to say but they are doing nothing but spreading religious 
hatred.
>  So, thats why I will end up saying any connection between 
missionaries and
>  developement is purely
>  coincidental.
> 
>  On Jan 9, 2008 12:34 PM, anuperickujur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  >   People who help others in lifting their own down-trodden 
lives cannot
>  > be blamed for creating such unnecessary tensions. The tribals 
who
>  > have been persecuted reside in places where there is very little
>  > means of having a fruitful living. People from the outside 
world come
>  > to help them move into places which they can never imagine of. 
The
>  > lives of many such innocent tribals have been bettered by such
>  > missionary activities. But on the contrary, the people with 
whom they
>  > are living among, on a day of joyous celebrations, clamp a 
shutdown
>  > on all festive activities. This is a violation of human rights, 
where
>  > the suffering people have not been allowed to express their 
feelings
>  > and desires. The shutdown was not a government order or any 
court
>  > ruling or the decision of a block officer. This was instigated 
on the
>  > mere information of a seer who proclaimed that he feared for 
his life
>  > on the day of Christmas. Such baseless testimonials hold no 
ground.
>  > And the people instead of applying their brains, go by their
>  > sentiments to create such unnecessary ruckus, disrupting life 
and
>  > daily commitments. Don't people of different communities in 
India
>  > celebrate Holi, Diwali, Id together? This is our unity in 
diversity.
>  > So why not celebrate Christmas together?
>  > Secondly, the people who are trying to uplift the lives of the 
not-so-
>  > fortunate are instigated through the acts of forced 
conversions. Let
>  > us recall that India is one of the countries where most of the 
poor
>  > live below the poverty level. The people need lives, so that 
their
>  > dreams can be fulfilled. But the orthodox thoughts of the old 
and the
>  > communalists want the poor to be in the state that they are so 
they
>  > cannot come up in thoughts, words and actions. The communalists 
know
>  > that if the people get better education and rise in their 
standards
>  > of living, their own personal interests will be hampered, as 
the now
>  > down-trodden will have better lives, think independently, not be
>  > dependent on the offerings of the landlords, and know the law 
better.
>  > But can we sacrifice the betterment of the people and the 
country for
>  > the petty selfish thoughts some black-hearted people. This is 
me is
>  > inexcusable.
>  > In fact, let us work together in our individual ways to better 
the
>  > society, and let each and every Indian grow, so that the country
>  > develops. Let us all be a missionary, with the mission to 
develop the
>  > people of the country. Let us forget that the word missionary is
>  > reserved only for religious people. No! Let us all be a light 
to each
>  > other, and let each one grow. For the growth of the people is 
the
>  > growth of the country.
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In [email protected] <Jharkhand%
40yahoogroups.co.in>, v
>  > <ahvenkitesh@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Missionary activties are responsible for disrupting previously
>  > cohesive and
>  > > harmonious communities.
>  > > I have sympathy for the poor tribals. None of the NGOs,
>  > government, media
>  > > has paid attention to their plight. If at all they have been
>  > branded as
>  > > Hindutva and demonized.
>  > >
>  > > Whereas Christians are portrayed as the persecutedvictims and 
given
>  > all the
>  > > sympathy when they are the real aggressors.
>  > > Wherever Christian missionaries have gone in this world ... 
they
>  > have
>  > > destroyed adn enslaved the native people. Africa, Americas,
>  > Aborigines of
>  > > Australia etc. So please do not believe tgheir human rights
>  > propaganda.
>  > >
>  > > Christians have Destroyed Various Ethnic Cultures of the 
World ...
>  > > www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?
>  > type=ARTICLES&id=1130195242
>  > >
>  > > Genocide of Natives in the Western Hemisphere, starting 1492 
CE
>  > > www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>


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