People do tend to write little bit harsh about the things they are very passionate about. Religion is one of such topics. People even question other people integrity :-) , and assume they are doing right thing. Well, as far I am concerned , I do stand by my words. I was born and brought up in a village In Jharkhand, and I have written only the things that I have witnessed. I have never said any religion teaches hatred, but some religion "experts" do indulge in unfair practices. This is a fair statement. I think questioning somebody's integrity and knowledge is certainly breaking the Godwin's law here.
Peace, Saurabh. On Jan 9, 2008 11:28 PM, kachhapbk2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected] <Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.in>, > Partho Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I agree to what Mr. Partho Dutta says. This is a fruitless unending > debate. Blaming a particular community without any indepth study and > experience is WRONG. None of the religion teaches hatred and > violence. I feel sorry that since there's no moderation on this > JHARKHAND NETWORK people have written things which will hurt a > persons sentiment, belief and faith. > Instead of discussing what the administration has been doing in > Orissa few members are writing things which is not expected on this > forum. I seriously doubt their integrity. > I'd request the moderator not to allow such posting to appear on > this forum. > I am proud to be a Tribal and I am also proud to be a Roman Catholic > and so are my Hindu,Muslims, Sikh and Buddhist friends. > Let's put in our rational thinking on this forum and make it a > better place. > B K Kachhap > > > > The first casualty is truth. > > What actually did happen? There seem to be as many versions as > there are sides to this debate. > > And please, could this discourse continue without mindless > throwing of labels? > > Partho Datta > > > > Saurabh Abhishek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: Uplifting the lives of > unprivileged is great and noble thing to do, but I > > have seen enough what > > the missionaries exactly do. The truth is far from what they say. > > "Uplifting" essentially means brainwashing and false promises > most of the > > times. > > I saying this because I have seen this innumerable times. > > I belong to place in remote Gumla, before the missionaries > arrived there was > > no animosity between in the > > ppl atleast on religious grounds, nobody actually cared about the > > religion.The religion was the way it should be, personal and > practiced with > > no fanaticism. Now the so called developement has made people to > ask their > > children to stay at home because its "their" festival not "ours". > I am not > > blaming any particular community but the for the animosity > factor , yes I > > blame the missionaries. > > > > I have seen those half educated chaps preaching that > having "Prasad" from a > > Hindu friend is a sin. > > Sad to say but they are doing nothing but spreading religious > hatred. > > So, thats why I will end up saying any connection between > missionaries and > > developement is purely > > coincidental. > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 12:34 PM, anuperickujur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > People who help others in lifting their own down-trodden > lives cannot > > > be blamed for creating such unnecessary tensions. The tribals > who > > > have been persecuted reside in places where there is very little > > > means of having a fruitful living. People from the outside > world come > > > to help them move into places which they can never imagine of. > The > > > lives of many such innocent tribals have been bettered by such > > > missionary activities. But on the contrary, the people with > whom they > > > are living among, on a day of joyous celebrations, clamp a > shutdown > > > on all festive activities. This is a violation of human rights, > where > > > the suffering people have not been allowed to express their > feelings > > > and desires. The shutdown was not a government order or any > court > > > ruling or the decision of a block officer. This was instigated > on the > > > mere information of a seer who proclaimed that he feared for > his life > > > on the day of Christmas. Such baseless testimonials hold no > ground. > > > And the people instead of applying their brains, go by their > > > sentiments to create such unnecessary ruckus, disrupting life > and > > > daily commitments. Don't people of different communities in > India > > > celebrate Holi, Diwali, Id together? This is our unity in > diversity. > > > So why not celebrate Christmas together? > > > Secondly, the people who are trying to uplift the lives of the > not-so- > > > fortunate are instigated through the acts of forced > conversions. Let > > > us recall that India is one of the countries where most of the > poor > > > live below the poverty level. The people need lives, so that > their > > > dreams can be fulfilled. But the orthodox thoughts of the old > and the > > > communalists want the poor to be in the state that they are so > they > > > cannot come up in thoughts, words and actions. The communalists > know > > > that if the people get better education and rise in their > standards > > > of living, their own personal interests will be hampered, as > the now > > > down-trodden will have better lives, think independently, not be > > > dependent on the offerings of the landlords, and know the law > better. > > > But can we sacrifice the betterment of the people and the > country for > > > the petty selfish thoughts some black-hearted people. This is > me is > > > inexcusable. > > > In fact, let us work together in our individual ways to better > the > > > society, and let each and every Indian grow, so that the country > > > develops. Let us all be a missionary, with the mission to > develop the > > > people of the country. Let us forget that the word missionary is > > > reserved only for religious people. No! Let us all be a light > to each > > > other, and let each one grow. For the growth of the people is > the > > > growth of the country. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > > <Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.in><Jharkhand% > 40yahoogroups.co.in>, v > > > <ahvenkitesh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Missionary activties are responsible for disrupting previously > > > cohesive and > > > > harmonious communities. > > > > I have sympathy for the poor tribals. None of the NGOs, > > > government, media > > > > has paid attention to their plight. If at all they have been > > > branded as > > > > Hindutva and demonized. > > > > > > > > Whereas Christians are portrayed as the persecutedvictims and > given > > > all the > > > > sympathy when they are the real aggressors. > > > > Wherever Christian missionaries have gone in this world ... > they > > > have > > > > destroyed adn enslaved the native people. Africa, Americas, > > > Aborigines of > > > > Australia etc. So please do not believe tgheir human rights > > > propaganda. > > > > > > > > Christians have Destroyed Various Ethnic Cultures of the > World ... > > > > www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php? > > > type=ARTICLES&id=1130195242 > > > > > > > > Genocide of Natives in the Western Hemisphere, starting 1492 > CE > > > > www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
