Kumar, u missed a few buddy. I think Reliance Telecom is also owned by Sisters of Charity, Dumka, Tatasons is partially held by Pro christian sect called The christian Iron Brothers and the whole of India is probably owned by a catholic Italian woman - I think her Indian name is Sonia. According to Kumar's logic she will convert 800 million Hindus soon with the help of piddly 328 million dollars aid..Oh my God what is Kumar going to do.Maybe change his name to John Kumaran. Ironically Malayalam Manorama and all the other TV channels have more Hindu readers/viewers and Nookukooli is mostly practiced by Hindus in kerela. The 800 million peace loving Hindus would love to shut Kumar up. How about starting your own channel Kumar. Maybe a jobless keralite can do that for you? If you have the guts to hire one. Life is a circus and what is a circus without a few jokers. Cheers Isaac .
" What you resist, will persist" --- On Wed, 7/16/08, S kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: S kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the group?: To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 2:43 PM Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum Isaac, The Kerala jobless Christians would do anything to make a few bucks without working. The culture of idleness and intimidation of the innocent introduced by the CPM-Gurudasan- to allow CPM lower cadre red shirts to extract money by "Nokkukooli" or "just by watching others doing work" is an example that has percolated to Christian Coommunity to enjoy the crumbs thrown by Evangelical groups abroad and convert the gullible tribals with false promises. Have you heard of Benny Hinn and his "revival of corpses and gravely sick" against whom the US Govt. itself has filed cases of cheating? What did he do in Bangalore at the time of Congress Govt. when the CM Dharamsingh himself attended the huge show in the Stadium? Several Kerala Christians were brought on stretchers as "gravely sick" and taken to the stage, Benny Hinn blessed them and they jumped out of the stretchers to walk to the organisers and collect the 50% due after the advance received earlier!! You could locate these cheats if you get the list of those "healed" by Benny Hinn. Now who is a clown or Comic you can understand, the evangelisers playing drama in conversion of innocent tribals, giving a few new clothes, some presents and a picture of Jesus and getting their thumb impression of the conversion form. Are you not the actual clowns without doing any physical or productive work for a living? And getting further funds from World Vision for each such form? Are you not ashamed to waste your youth and energy in producing more and more ************ * "God's sons" to further cheat the Society of funds received through so called NGO-s? You want to know the ownership of media by Christians? That means you are not reading the postings in seriousness? Christian-Congress assault on the Bharatiya media and Hindu institutions The most extraordinary item is F) The Hindu: A English Daily, started over125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne , Switzerland . To this I would add the Malayala Monorama Group controlled by the Matthew family of Kottayam/of Kochi , Kerala. Which Media is controlled by whom and how does it derive benefit (A) NDTV: Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan . NDTV's CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India . Brinda Karat's sister Radhika Roy is married to Prannoy Roy. Also Prannoy Roy is a cousin of the prominent media personality Arundhati Roy (updated) (B) CNN-IBN: 100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates 800 Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. (C) TIMES GROUP LIST: TIMES OF INDIA , MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES, STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr News Channel) & many more. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done by "WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL", and balance 20% is equally shared by an Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI. (D) STAR TV: Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St.Peters Pontificia l Church Melbourne . (E) HINDUSTAN TIMES: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group. (F) The Hindu: A English Daily, started over 125 years at Chennai, has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne , Switzerland . (G) INDIAN EXPRESS: DIVDED INTO TWO GROUPS. THE INDIAN EXPRESS & NEW INDIAN EXPRESS (SOUTHERN EDITION). Acts Ministries has major stake in the Indian express and later is still with the Indian counterpart (H) EENADU: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao (I) Andhra Jyothi: The MUSLIM PARTY OF HYDERABAD known as (MIM) along with a Congress Minister Has purchased this Telugu daily very recently. (J) The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist party of India (K) Kairali TV: It is Controlled by CPI (Marxist) (L) Mathrabhoomi: leaders of Muslim league and Communist Leaders have major investment. (M) Asian Age & Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J.AKBAR --- On Wed, 7/16/08, isaac verghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: From: isaac verghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the group?: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 7:28 AM Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum Kumar is the new messiah who will provide jobs to the jobless keralites. Can u employ even one of them with your funds, Kumar. Or is your intention to keep them jobless and poor. U r seriously becoming more of a comic than a clown. U r a perfect quintessential of an armchair critic with a typical dog in the manger attitude.Khudh toh kuch nahi karna aur doosro koh bhi tarakhi nahi karwana hai. By the way which christian organisation owns a media company? Cheers Isaac --- On Tue, 7/15/08, S kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: From: S kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the group?: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 5:45 PM And all of us know that many enquiry commissions have indicted seniors for corruption. Corruption by high and mighty is faced by common mass day in and day out. THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION IN THE COUNTRY IS THE ANNUAL RECEIPT OF US$ 336 MILLION FROM EVANGELICAL GROUPS TO INDIAN EVANGELISTS AND UTILISING THESE FUNDS WITHOUT AUDIT OR ACCOUNT, TO ENTICE TRIBALS TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY BY ALL POSSIBLE MEANS- MONETARY INDUCEMENTS, PRESENTS AND PROMISES. HAVE ANY OF THESE SO CALLED NGO-S ENGAGED IN CONVERSIONS PUBLISHED THEIR ACCOUNTS AND ACCOUNTED FOR THE 336 MILLION US$ RECEIVED IN 2006-7? EVEN LALLU YADAV'S CATTLEFEED OR B'S KICKBACKS WOULD BE PIGMIED COMPARED TO THE EVANGELICAL FUNDS PUMPED INTO INDIA, AND SEVERAL JOBLESS KERALA CHRISTIANS ENGAGED IN DAILY VISITS TO CONVERT THE TRIBALS. AND STILL THESE EVANGELISTS PUBLISH PICTURES OF EMACIATED ILL FED INFANTS IN TRIBAL AREAS, INSTEAD OF FEEDING THEM USING A MINISCULE OF THESE FUNDS. WHAT WAS STAINES DOING IN THE ORISSA JUNGLES? YOU WANT DETAILS? Innumerable example of intimidation by mightier cousin of human is evident in all dailies and news channels. I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN DETAILS OF WHO OWNS THE NEWSCHANNELS AND MEDIA. IT IS MOSTLY OWNED BY CHRISTIAN GROUPS ABROAD AND WOULD NOT REVEAL ANYTHING THAT INDICTS EVANGELICAL ACTIVITIES --- On Tue, 7/15/08, anindita dey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> wrote: From: anindita dey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the group?: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:30 PM Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum Dear Group, Sarcasm is an accepted form of expression which I also employed in the said comment. However, I wonder how someone could ever discover threat perception from my comments. Well, I do believe that someone has the freedom to read as per ones will. But at the same time I surely do not believe that the person concern who prefer selective filtration while reading has freedom to comment without taking full perspective. If someone feels an intense urge to comment, the person concern should also take into account my starting sentence- ‘We have seen it here in Jharkhand Group also- seniors spewing unnecessary venom towards others, other faiths and other customs’. The inner tale of my comment is, therefore, to indicate something else. Have you ever noticed some of the seniors spewing unnecessary venom against others without any provocation in Jharkhand Group--some of them see evangelical hand in every curse of society, some want to highjack the group and dedicate it for a particular section, etc. etc.? I am sure you have--if not, I wonder if you have ignored these deliberately. I refrain from naming because that will cast a shade of bad behaviour on myself--at least I believe so. Senior again doesn’t mean older exclusively- -it may denote higher position in organisation, better established figures in society, belonging to so called higher strata in caste system, so on and so forth. And all of us know that many enquiry commissions have indicted seniors for corruption. Corruption by high and mighty is faced by common mass day in and day out. Innumerable example of intimidation by mightier cousin of human is evident in all dailies and news channels. Psychologically, behaviour is also reflected in lifestyle. Examples of good behaviour and lifestyle are also set by the seniors-- as the case of our previous President Honourable APJ Abdul Kalam and Infy mentor Mr. Narayanamurthy for the corporate world. Behaviour of juniors, although important, is generally not imitated by general mass. So, behaviour of seniors set the example. It is because they have the capability to control people and their situation. Thus I used ‘seniors’ in a broader sense and just used the contemporary finding to corroborate my contention. Just forget ‘our’ (Indian) and ‘their’ (foreigner) business and read my comments in the light of above facts. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Dr.V.N. Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: From: Dr.V.N. Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Subject: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Re Where is the Seniority issue in the group?: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in Date: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 5:27 PM Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum Dear Anandita, I think your reference to the European and Foregners' findings based on their cultural perception does not apply to our conditions and social, cultural backgrounds. Hence such messages with kind of warnings like 'So beware seniors, behave yourselves! Read on.......... ......... ..' are unwarranted. I request you to please explain your case if you have some formal or informal observation on this issue and where were the seniors wrong. I think that will benefit us more than giving warnings in e-mails like this. I saw your reply in which you mentioned that 'We have seen it here in Jharkhand Group also- seniors spewing unnecessary venom towards others, other faiths and other customs.' This is not a convincing reply. I expect you to tell the group by quoting each of the msg with emphasis where Seniors were spewing unnecessary venoms ......just because of seniority of age and not for a good reason or logic. I, for one, do not know the age of the group members and in my view no body, not many of us worry about that. You have quoted a study report of a foreigner for his own country or his Environment. I do not agree on this. In case you are serious about it please cite the cases as requested above. -- Dr.V.N.Sharma Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org. in/forum
