I would like to restart the axis orientation discussion from the
beginning.

I made several incorrect statements in the previous discussion and
apologize for any confusion (or lewd hand gestures :-) that I may have
caused.

We are going to talk about orientation first ... rotations will be a
separate discussion.


Right Hand rule says that with the right hand:
 thumb         -> +X
 index finger  -> +Y
 middle finger -> +Z

*Someone please confirm this*


RasMol/Chime have the +X axis pointing to the right, the +Y axis pointing
down, and the +Z axis pointing away from the user. This is a valid
right-hand system.

*Someone please confirm this*


There is a switch on the popup menu called 'Axes RasMol/Chime'. This
switch controls whether or not the +Y axis points down or up. By default,
this switch is 'on', for RasMol/Chime compatibility. That means that by
default, the +Y axis points down.

If you uncheck this box, then the +Y axis points upwards. The molecule is
(of course) rotated 180 degrees to reflect this.

Whether this checkbox is checked or not, the Jmol axis orientation is
always right-handed.

*Someone please confirm this*


My confusion surrounding this issue is caused by the fact that
RasMol/Chime has the +Y axis pointing downwards. I find this orientation
unnatural.

Q: In the abstract, independent of any existing applications/scripts that
may exist, what do people think about this? Do you believe that the +Y
axis should point upwards or downwards?

Q: Given that there *are* existing applications and tutorials, what do you
think we should do about this issue?

Q: Do other molecular visualization applications have the +Y axis pointing
upwards or downwards?


Miguel






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