Angel: you could simply put a link in the Jmol wiki to
http://proteopedia.org/w/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows
where solutions to the Java update 65 problem are given. Once the bug in the Java installer is fixed in a new update, I will remove that yellow block.

Reminder to everyone: the procedure successfully used by Albert Pratt (presumably for unsigned Jmol applets) is documented here:
http://proteopedia.org/w/Installing_and_enabling_Java

Eric

On 7/29/14 4:14 PM, Albert Pratt wrote:
Recently I needed to install Java 7, version 65 (with Windows 7, Home Premium) and took the opportunity to do a complete uninstall of earlier Java versions (e-mails below) using Fix 1 <http://proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows>in Protopedia <http://proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows>, deleting /all/ Oracle and Sun sub-directories in:
C:\Users\/your-name/\AppData\Roaming\
C:\Users\/your-name/\AppData\LocalLow\
C:\ProgramData\ .

Java 7, version 60, had previously worked with the caffeine Jmol model in test page 2 <http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/test2.htm>, among others sites.

When version 65 was downloaded and installed it didn't work with Jmol. However, following advice, I configured Java (Start>Java>Configure Java>Security>Edit Site List) by including the URLs of relevant Jmol sites (the http:// prefix appears to be essential). I also checked <https://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml> that Java was enabled in Chrome36, Firefox31 and IE11.

All three browsers now operate with test page 2 using Java 7, version 65.








On 29 July 2014 10:45, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu <mailto:hans...@stolaf.edu>> wrote:

    I've done that now -- it is on the "Installing Jmol" template.


    On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Robert Hanson
    <hans...@stolaf.edu <mailto:hans...@stolaf.edu>> wrote:

        It would be good if someone would  get this into the Jmol wiki.


        On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Eric Martz
        <ema...@microbio.umass.edu <mailto:ema...@microbio.umass.edu>>
        wrote:

            Dear Pshemak,

            Thanks so much -- your suggestion enabled Java 7 update 65
            to work
            with Jmol on my Windows 7 system.

            1. I used Control Panel, Programs, Uninstall to uninstall the
            non-working Java 7 update 65.

            2. Using the free Windows search program Agent Ransack (truly
            excellent, blows away Windows Explorer for finding system
            files), I
            located these:

            C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\Roaming\Oracle
            C:\ProgramData\Oracle
            C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\LocalLow\Sun
            C:\ProgramData\Sun

            I deleted all 4 of those directories and all their contents.

            3. I went to java.com <http://java.com> and downloaded the
            installer for Java 7 update
            65, and installed it. Now Jmol_S works again.

            OTHER OBSERVATIONS

            After uninstalling Java 7 update 65, and installing Java
            7, update
            60, Jmol_S worked. I wondered if then upgrading to 65
            would run
            Jmol_S. It did NOT.

            I have explained two ways to get Jmol to work again here:

            
http://proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows

            -Eric

            At 7/25/14, you wrote:
            >I had similar problems (I reported them some time ago).
             They were
            >limited to one Windows machine (Win 7, Firefox, Chrome,
            IE) of 3 tried
            >(Win 7 and Win 8).
            >
            >My problem was with the update procedure.  It was
            insufficient to
            >uninstall the old version, I had to delete (after
            uninstalling) all Java
            >directories (hiding under Oracle and even Sun Systems
            names in Users
            >directories).
            >
            >After clean up, it works fine.
            >
            >One curiosity: I have tested multiple Java applets (not
            just Jmol) and
            >only Jmol did not work for me (it never fully loaded to
            get to the
            >permission window, no error messages).
            >
            >Please report back if it work for you too.
            >
            >PM
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >On 7/25/2014 7:26 PM, Eric Martz wrote:
            > > In Windows 7, my tests indicate that Java 7 update 65
            does not work
            > > with the current Jmol_S, or recent 14.0.17 Jmol_S.
            However, update 60
            > > does work.
            > >
            > > Do others confirm this?
            > >
            > > Previous emails indicate that Java 7 update 65 runs
            Jmol applet in
            > > Windows 8 (Angel H), and that Java 8 runs Jmol applet
            (Henry R, OS
            > > not specified?).
            > >
            > > However, on Windows 7, when I upgraded Java 7 from 60
            to 65 today, I
            > > could not get the current Jmol_S applet to work in IE
            11, Firefox 31,
            > > or Chrome (current).
            > >
            > > I tested Jmol 14.2.3
            > >
            http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm?_USE=SIGNED
            > > and Jmol_S 14.0.17
            > >
            http://bioinformatics.org/firstglance/fgij/fg.htm?mol=1d66&JAVA
            > >
            > > Curiously, a very old old unsigned applet (11.4.RC3)
            worked in
            > > Firefox and Chrome (but not in IE).
            > > http://www.umass.edu/molvis/tutorials/dna/dnapairs.htm
            > >
            > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update
            65 on OS X
            > > (Mavericks) with Safari or Firefox.
            > >
            > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update
            65 on Windows
            > > XP in Firefox 31 or Internet Explorer 8.
            > >
            > > I then uninstalled Java from my Windows 7, downloaded
            and installed
            > > Java 7 update 60
            > > (x86 version).
            > >
            >
            
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html
            > > Everything worked again.
            > >
            > > Eric
            > >
            > >
            > >


            
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