Agreed - the last part is probably not essential, though a useful check if
things don't work. My guess is that the problem lies with the 1st part, i.e.
ensuring that Java on the visitor's computer is configured to permit it to use
the visited Jmol website.
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 06:34, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Albert Pratt <albert.pr...@dcu.ie> wrote:
>>
>> When version 65 was downloaded and installed it didn't work with Jmol.
>> However, following advice, I configured Java (Start>Java>Configure
>> Java>Security>Edit Site List) by including the URLs of relevant Jmol sites
>> (the http:// prefix appears to be essential). I also checked that Java was
>> enabled in Chrome36, Firefox31 and IE11.
>>
>> All three browsers now operate with test page 2 using Java 7, version 65.
>
> This last part DEFINITELY should not be necessary. Java should be doing that
> automatically when you first start up an applet. Maybe this is the issue with
> 65.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 29 July 2014 10:45, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
>>> I've done that now -- it is on the "Installing Jmol" template.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
>>>> It would be good if someone would get this into the Jmol wiki.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Eric Martz <ema...@microbio.umass.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Pshemak,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much -- your suggestion enabled Java 7 update 65 to work
>>>>> with Jmol on my Windows 7 system.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I used Control Panel, Programs, Uninstall to uninstall the
>>>>> non-working Java 7 update 65.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Using the free Windows search program Agent Ransack (truly
>>>>> excellent, blows away Windows Explorer for finding system files), I
>>>>> located these:
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\Roaming\Oracle
>>>>> C:\ProgramData\Oracle
>>>>> C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\LocalLow\Sun
>>>>> C:\ProgramData\Sun
>>>>>
>>>>> I deleted all 4 of those directories and all their contents.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I went to java.com and downloaded the installer for Java 7 update
>>>>> 65, and installed it. Now Jmol_S works again.
>>>>>
>>>>> OTHER OBSERVATIONS
>>>>>
>>>>> After uninstalling Java 7 update 65, and installing Java 7, update
>>>>> 60, Jmol_S worked. I wondered if then upgrading to 65 would run
>>>>> Jmol_S. It did NOT.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have explained two ways to get Jmol to work again here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>
>>>>> At 7/25/14, you wrote:
>>>>> >I had similar problems (I reported them some time ago). They were
>>>>> >limited to one Windows machine (Win 7, Firefox, Chrome, IE) of 3 tried
>>>>> >(Win 7 and Win 8).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >My problem was with the update procedure. It was insufficient to
>>>>> >uninstall the old version, I had to delete (after uninstalling) all Java
>>>>> >directories (hiding under Oracle and even Sun Systems names in Users
>>>>> >directories).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >After clean up, it works fine.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >One curiosity: I have tested multiple Java applets (not just Jmol) and
>>>>> >only Jmol did not work for me (it never fully loaded to get to the
>>>>> >permission window, no error messages).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Please report back if it work for you too.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >PM
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >On 7/25/2014 7:26 PM, Eric Martz wrote:
>>>>> > > In Windows 7, my tests indicate that Java 7 update 65 does not work
>>>>> > > with the current Jmol_S, or recent 14.0.17 Jmol_S. However, update 60
>>>>> > > does work.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Do others confirm this?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Previous emails indicate that Java 7 update 65 runs Jmol applet in
>>>>> > > Windows 8 (Angel H), and that Java 8 runs Jmol applet (Henry R, OS
>>>>> > > not specified?).
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > However, on Windows 7, when I upgraded Java 7 from 60 to 65 today, I
>>>>> > > could not get the current Jmol_S applet to work in IE 11, Firefox 31,
>>>>> > > or Chrome (current).
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I tested Jmol 14.2.3
>>>>> > > http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm?_USE=SIGNED
>>>>> > > and Jmol_S 14.0.17
>>>>> > > http://bioinformatics.org/firstglance/fgij/fg.htm?mol=1d66&JAVA
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Curiously, a very old old unsigned applet (11.4.RC3) worked in
>>>>> > > Firefox and Chrome (but not in IE).
>>>>> > > http://www.umass.edu/molvis/tutorials/dna/dnapairs.htm
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update 65 on OS X
>>>>> > > (Mavericks) with Safari or Firefox.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update 65 on Windows
>>>>> > > XP in Firefox 31 or Internet Explorer 8.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I then uninstalled Java from my Windows 7, downloaded and installed
>>>>> > > Java 7 update 60
>>>>> > > (x86 version).
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html
>>>>> > > Everything worked again.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Eric
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>>
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