On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Albert Pratt <[email protected]> wrote:
> When version 65 was downloaded and installed it didn't work with Jmol.
> However, following advice, I configured Java (Start>Java>Configure
> Java>Security>Edit Site List) by including the URLs of relevant Jmol sites
> (the http:// prefix appears to be essential). I also checked
> <https://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml> that Java was
> enabled in Chrome36, Firefox31 and IE11.
>
> All three browsers now operate with test page 2 using Java 7, version 65.
>
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>
This last part DEFINITELY should not be necessary. Java should be doing
that automatically when you first start up an applet. Maybe this is the
issue with 65.
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> On 29 July 2014 10:45, Robert Hanson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've done that now -- it is on the "Installing Jmol" template.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Robert Hanson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be good if someone would get this into the Jmol wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Eric Martz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Pshemak,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much -- your suggestion enabled Java 7 update 65 to work
>>>> with Jmol on my Windows 7 system.
>>>>
>>>> 1. I used Control Panel, Programs, Uninstall to uninstall the
>>>> non-working Java 7 update 65.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Using the free Windows search program Agent Ransack (truly
>>>> excellent, blows away Windows Explorer for finding system files), I
>>>> located these:
>>>>
>>>> C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\Roaming\Oracle
>>>> C:\ProgramData\Oracle
>>>> C:\Users\Eric Martz\AppData\LocalLow\Sun
>>>> C:\ProgramData\Sun
>>>>
>>>> I deleted all 4 of those directories and all their contents.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I went to java.com and downloaded the installer for Java 7 update
>>>> 65, and installed it. Now Jmol_S works again.
>>>>
>>>> OTHER OBSERVATIONS
>>>>
>>>> After uninstalling Java 7 update 65, and installing Java 7, update
>>>> 60, Jmol_S worked. I wondered if then upgrading to 65 would run
>>>> Jmol_S. It did NOT.
>>>>
>>>> I have explained two ways to get Jmol to work again here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Windows
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>>> At 7/25/14, you wrote:
>>>> >I had similar problems (I reported them some time ago). They were
>>>> >limited to one Windows machine (Win 7, Firefox, Chrome, IE) of 3 tried
>>>> >(Win 7 and Win 8).
>>>> >
>>>> >My problem was with the update procedure. It was insufficient to
>>>> >uninstall the old version, I had to delete (after uninstalling) all
>>>> Java
>>>> >directories (hiding under Oracle and even Sun Systems names in Users
>>>> >directories).
>>>> >
>>>> >After clean up, it works fine.
>>>> >
>>>> >One curiosity: I have tested multiple Java applets (not just Jmol) and
>>>> >only Jmol did not work for me (it never fully loaded to get to the
>>>> >permission window, no error messages).
>>>> >
>>>> >Please report back if it work for you too.
>>>> >
>>>> >PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >On 7/25/2014 7:26 PM, Eric Martz wrote:
>>>> > > In Windows 7, my tests indicate that Java 7 update 65 does not work
>>>> > > with the current Jmol_S, or recent 14.0.17 Jmol_S. However, update
>>>> 60
>>>> > > does work.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Do others confirm this?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Previous emails indicate that Java 7 update 65 runs Jmol applet in
>>>> > > Windows 8 (Angel H), and that Java 8 runs Jmol applet (Henry R, OS
>>>> > > not specified?).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > However, on Windows 7, when I upgraded Java 7 from 60 to 65 today, I
>>>> > > could not get the current Jmol_S applet to work in IE 11, Firefox
>>>> 31,
>>>> > > or Chrome (current).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I tested Jmol 14.2.3
>>>> > > http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm?_USE=SIGNED
>>>> > > and Jmol_S 14.0.17
>>>> > > http://bioinformatics.org/firstglance/fgij/fg.htm?mol=1d66&JAVA
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Curiously, a very old old unsigned applet (11.4.RC3) worked in
>>>> > > Firefox and Chrome (but not in IE).
>>>> > > http://www.umass.edu/molvis/tutorials/dna/dnapairs.htm
>>>> > >
>>>> > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update 65 on OS X
>>>> > > (Mavericks) with Safari or Firefox.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > All the above test sites work fine with Java 7 update 65 on Windows
>>>> > > XP in Firefox 31 or Internet Explorer 8.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I then uninstalled Java from my Windows 7, downloaded and installed
>>>> > > Java 7 update 60
>>>> > > (x86 version).
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase7-521261.html
>>>> > > Everything worked again.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Eric
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> If nature does not answer first what we want,
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>> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
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