I've been reading this thread right along and I apologize for being the late
one to the party, and I wasn't going to bother, because its not at the core
of the discussion, but I'm still perplexed.
Why would you want to use:
.attr('onclick', function() { /../ });
When exists:
.click(function() { /../ })
.bind('click', function() { /../ })
.live('click', function() { /../ })
.....
Or, this? What practical application does this have? Where a dev would set
the height of an element with the height of the same element.
$o.attr('height',$o.attr('height'))
...I understand that in the context of test cases, round-trip value
getting/setting ensures that methods are reliable, but in the real world?
Perhaps my understanding of javascript beyond jquery is the reason, but I've
never, not even once, had an issue with attr() doing what *I intended* it to
do - like I said, it could be because I'm not expecting it to do anything
particularly zany, like setting a value with the same value from the same
source.
Also, for a method that you're so quick to call "broken", I decided to do a
reality check of code that is expected to *always and only work with jQuery*...
I dug through jQuery UI 1.7.2 and i found something not-too-shocking: only 1
occurrence of "getAttribute" (in datepicker... line 6166), 1 occurrence of
setAttributeNS() (in $.ui.* ) and 1 occurrence of removeAttributeNS() (in
$.ui.*). 47 occurrences of .attr() (a mix of string and object argument
syntaxes) and 12 .removeAttr()'s
jQuery UI is more then expected to work browser independently, its implied
by its use.
Furthermore, after looking at that site you referenced several times (that i
will not copy/paste here), I second a move to 100% ban all references, along
with the newsgroup you cited. I realize you feel as though ignoring certain
sources might leave you in the dark, but my advice would be to try and steer
clear of bad information.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Matt <m...@thekrusefamily.com> wrote:
> On Dec 15, 11:32 am, John Resig <jere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think this is a great approach, and I hope it goes somewhere. How
> > > exactly can I help with it?
> > Categorizing the "types" would be a great start. Types that should
> > "just work", Types that should return booleans, types that we
> > obviously don't care about (attributes of isindex, for example), and
> > attributes that we provide better alternatives for (Using .click()
> > instead of .attr("onclick", fn), for example).
>
> I will take a look at this. I may come to different conclusions than
> you, but I will propose something. Having a dump of all the attributes
> and documenting what to expect from each would be fantastic.
>
> > > Because height() tries to do so much magic, it ends up that this:
> > > $o.attr('height',$o.attr('height'));
> > I was 100% serious about a ban concerning everything from CLJ. Please,
> > original ideas/concerns/bug reports/test cases only.
>
> Seems petty to me. There is a good test case there that illustrates
> the problem. I'm not going to reproduce it to shelter jQuery from CLJ.
>
> Nevertheless, since attr() calls height() for both getter and setter,
> the real problem is that
> $o.height( $o.height() )
> is not reliable in some cases. So perhaps the issue is there, instead
> of with attr().
>
> > On the whole though, I'd recommend to just stop reading the group as
> > who knows what they will try to pull next.
>
> I've never been a fan of head-in-the-sand. I can find the pearls of
> wisdom in the posts there without taking anything personally. And
> there is a lot of good, robust, deep stuff posted there that you won't
> find in blog posts or discussions here. To each his own.
>
> Matt Kruse
>
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