Chris wrote: Ok, now that I've had a belly full of the crap, let's
just put things in perspective and lay them out on the table.
Phil replied: before you do I unreservedly apologise if I have said
anything that upset you. I especially would like to apologise for
saying, "Chris, me thinks you may wish to take a little more time out
to study Sonar's architecture before posting inaccurate stuff like
this, especially if you're teaching students." I was flat out wrong
to post that so, sorry.
However, I stand by my comment about being able to access all 6 bands
of the track/bus EQ in the track inspector which, I don't feel you
explained thoroughly.
Chris wrote: The real deal is that you just can't stand anyone having
a different idea about how to do things than you, I've seen it
displayed even with very gentle knowledgeable people, who never go toe
to toe with anyone, isn't mentioning any names, but I will say he's a
cubass user and uses another screen-reader than the all glorious holy
jaws 'grin'.
Phil replied: not about to get into talking about others who are not
on list and are therefore, not part of this discussion and not in the
position of answering for themselves as that's not fair. I won't put
words in other peoples mouths if they aren't here to agree/disagree.
However, I will state that you and I did come to full agreement on a
separate issue with regard to components not being fully revealed by a
PC vender who builds PC's that came up on another list so, in spite of
what has been posted here, Chris and I do agree on things quite a lot.
Further more, Chris is using a PC built by another vender that I
recommended to Chris, a guy called Jim Roseberry over
at:
http://www.studiocat.com/
Chris wrote: You love to discredit me because you just can't stand it
that I charge half or less than you do, and give better value, and
I've stolen some of your students.
Phil replied: better value is always a debatable point. If we weren't
doing something right then, clients wouldn't keep on coming back.
Sure, competition is a very good thing indeed.
Chris wrote: Competition buddy, I even put out friendly feelers to
work with you even giving you my first version of session drummer 3
but all I got from you was, oh, it's junk, I can do a better job of
it.
Phil replied: at no stage in the conversation with you Did I ever
state that. What Chris wanted to do was offer that set to the freely
available HSC sets and that would be as Chris stated his "contribution
to the cause."
Chris wrote: Well, mister know it all, that prompted me to make it
better and put it out myself, but thanks to people like Roy, and Tom
Kingston, and folks who aren't threatened by a little competition, and
who can work with others doing the same thing they are sometimes it
turned out just fine. I was even going to split profits with you, but
no, you couldn't be bothered.
Phil replied: this wasn't a conversation that I ever had with you so,
I think it's easy to state inaccuracies after the fact.
Chris wrote: Despite the brush-off, you still get free rain to
advertise, and share special stuff on my private list, and to your
credit, at least there, you don't act like such an know it all,
probably because you know the biggest brains are watching, I'm
privileged to have some such on the list.
But you need to quit it, whether you like it or not, there are other
ways of doing things, even with sonar, and some of them may work
better for some people than your sanctioned way, for instances,
trashing the idea, yes you did, of using more than one bus to get
extra eq, well, if we weren't supposed to use eq in this manner, why
is it there?
yes, you can turn on automation and record your moves, but why not do
precision snapshots, and why not put strategic eq in specific places
where it is needed, maybe behind a d s bus to help the d s processing.
And the ability to move it anywhere in the chain. Bet you never
thought of that, you just told me it was a wrong thing to do.
Phil replied: can't remember stating anything like that.
Chris wrote: Well, tell it to cakewalk sonar, they invented it, and
it's even mentioned in the help that the inspector pane is a useful
thing, even sighted people do things this way buddy.
Phil replied: yes, we all know that.
Chris wrote: so you loose 2 bands of eq, but you don't really because
you can always open up the plug-in, or use another bus, how ever suits
you best.
Phil replied: and that's my point. At no point did you state that you
can still access all 6 bands of the track/bus EQ in the track
inspector. If you had then, I wouldn't have posted anything on this
as there would have been no point.
Chris wrote: So talk about miss-leading people, my way of doing things
is accessible to all screen readers too, and hnot just your precious
hsc files, which don't work some of the time anyway, and yes, they
have errors in them too.
Phil replied: all software has bugs /errors. There will be a massive
update for all free HSC sets coming out very shortly indeed which,
should hopefully address any current issues. Those particular sets
shall remain free. Talking of which, Chris, got anything HSC or
otherwise that you would "like to contribute to the cause?"
Chris wrote: So just admit, you can't stand any competition, and you
have it easy, because your little sighted wife shows you everything
going on on the screen,
Phil replied: I am not about to make any disparaging comments about
anyone's family members as that's way below the belt. I will say this
though, any sighted help that I do have is extremely limited and I too
have to spend a lot of time, coaming the screen for buttons etc as you
do.
Chris wrote: I don't begrudge you that, but I bet you couldn't get as
far without your built in eyes as some of us have by ourselves.
Phil replied: wild speculation on you're part. The fact is that we
would all get a lot further with all of this stuff with sighted help.
Chris wrote: Not that that's a big deal, but it's worth mentioning
when you feel it necessary to pull others down to make yourself look
better.
Phil replied: well it's obviously a big deal to you. Wasn't me who
mentioned it.
Chris wrote: I think that's even been said to you on list by someone,
even recently, it might have been by the same friendly humble
non-offensive cubass user
I have never but lifted you up and even encouraged people to use you
for tutoring when I couldn't do it,k or even if i thought you might be
better at something, for instance, with hsc, you are undisputedly the
king.
But you are so insecure, you have to slam me publically, and can not
pay equal respect.
Phil replied: as you well know, I have posted publicaly before about
how much respect I have for you.
Chris wrote: Well, not supprisingly when the going got tough you
couldn't even stand up for your own faith, choosing to be politically
correct instead of just correct.
Most on here won't know what I'm talking about, but you sure will
Philly boy.
Phil replied: I am not about to defend my faith here as 1, it's not
the place and 2, people who really know me, know exactly where I stand
on that so, no need to defend anything.
Chris wrote: So whether I get kicked off her for calling you out or
now, I'm not putting up with it anymore,\ if you think I'm not right,
and really not right, yes, i can accept correction, and I'll be the
first to say, hey, my bad, I said something wrong.
Phil replied: as I stated before, you didn't cover the fact that you
can access all 6 bannds in the track/bus EQ from within the track
inspector.
Chris wrote: But this was just plane lame, and just flinging a pile of
crap there was nothing technically wrong in what I stated.
Because setting your options to open a plug-in and or manually
insertintg it amounts to just about the same thing, in the inspector
pane you get 4 and in the plug-in you get 6, and that was my point.
Phil replied: again you miss stated the facts. You can access all 6
bands of the track/bus EQ in the track inspector which you did not
state. Plus, you can switch the Track/Bus EQ from pree to post in the
track inspector which, could be another good reason for using that
over inserting a separate EQ such as the Sonitus EQ.
Chris wrote: So in an edited version of my little brother Damon's
famous nhb radio salutation, f you, f you, and f you again.
Phil replied: That was edited? Seriously though, it's possible to bhe
eliquent without having to stoop to using the F word. May you have a
blessed day.
Chris wrote: Thank you for the in put of your giant brain.
Phil replied: It's the same size as everyone elses brain.
Chris wrote; No body knows as much as the great mighty Muure.
Phil replied: why thank you! Seriously though, I sure don't know
everything. Every day's a school day and if I don't know something
then, I will be up front and say that.
Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
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