Chris wrote: Ok, now that I've had a belly full of the crap, let's just put
things in perspective and lay them out on the table.
Phil replied: before you do I unreservedly apologise if I have said anything
that upset you. I especially would like to apologise for saying, "Chris, me
thinks you may wish to take a little more time out to study Sonar's
architecture before posting inaccurate stuff like this, especially if you're
teaching students." I was flat out wrong to post that so, sorry.
However, I stand by my comment about being able to access all 6 bands of the
track/bus EQ in the track inspector which, I don't feel you explained
thoroughly.
Chris wrote: The real deal is that you just can't stand anyone having a
different idea about how to do things than you, I've seen it displayed even
with very gentle knowledgeable people, who never go toe to toe with anyone,
isn't mentioning any names, but I will say he's a cubass user and uses
another screen-reader than the all glorious holy jaws 'grin'.
Phil replied: not about to get into talking about others who are not on list
and are therefore, not part of this discussion and not in the position of
answering for themselves as that's not fair. I won't put words in other
peoples mouths if they aren't here to agree/disagree. However, I will state
that you and I did come to full agreement on a separate issue with regard to
components not being fully revealed by a PC vender who builds PC's that came
up on another list so, in spite of what has been posted here, Chris and I do
agree on things quite a lot. Further more, Chris is using a PC built by
another vender that I recommended to Chris, a guy called Jim Roseberry over
at:
http://www.studiocat.com/
Chris wrote: You love to discredit me because you just can't stand it that I
charge half or less than you do, and give better value, and I've stolen some
of your students.
Phil replied: better value is always a debatable point. If we weren't doing
something right then, clients wouldn't keep on coming back. Sure,
competition is a very good thing indeed.
Chris wrote: Competition buddy, I even put out friendly feelers to work with
you even giving you my first version of session drummer 3 but all I got from
you was, oh, it's junk, I can do a better job of it.
Phil replied: at no stage in the conversation with you Did I ever state
that. What Chris wanted to do was offer that set to the freely available
HSC sets and that would be as Chris stated his "contribution to the cause."
Chris wrote: Well, mister know it all, that prompted me to make it better
and put it out myself, but thanks to people like Roy, and Tom Kingston, and
folks who aren't threatened by a little competition, and who can work with
others doing the same thing they are sometimes it turned out just fine. I
was even going to split profits with you, but no, you couldn't be bothered.
Phil replied: this wasn't a conversation that I ever had with you so, I
think it's easy to state inaccuracies after the fact.
Chris wrote: Despite the brush-off, you still get free rain to advertise,
and share special stuff on my private list, and to your credit, at least
there, you don't act like such an know it all, probably because you know the
biggest brains are watching, I'm privileged to have some such on the list.
But you need to quit it, whether you like it or not, there are other ways of
doing things, even with sonar, and some of them may work better for some
people than your sanctioned way, for instances, trashing the idea, yes you
did, of using more than one bus to get extra eq, well, if we weren't
supposed to use eq in this manner, why is it there?
yes, you can turn on automation and record your moves, but why not do
precision snapshots, and why not put strategic eq in specific places where
it is needed, maybe behind a d s bus to help the d s processing.
And the ability to move it anywhere in the chain. Bet you never thought of
that, you just told me it was a wrong thing to do.
Phil replied: can't remember stating anything like that.
Chris wrote: Well, tell it to cakewalk sonar, they invented it, and it's
even mentioned in the help that the inspector pane is a useful thing, even
sighted people do things this way buddy.
Phil replied: yes, we all know that.
Chris wrote: so you loose 2 bands of eq, but you don't really because you
can always open up the plug-in, or use another bus, how ever suits you best.
Phil replied: and that's my point. At no point did you state that you can
still access all 6 bands of the track/bus EQ in the track inspector. If you
had then, I wouldn't have posted anything on this as there would have been
no point.
Chris wrote: So talk about miss-leading people, my way of doing things is
accessible to all screen readers too, and hnot just your precious hsc files,
which don't work some of the time anyway, and yes, they have errors in them
too.
Phil replied: all software has bugs /errors. There will be a massive update
for all free HSC sets coming out very shortly indeed which, should hopefully
address any current issues. Those particular sets shall remain free.
Talking of which, Chris, got anything HSC or otherwise that you would "like
to contribute to the cause?"
Chris wrote: So just admit, you can't stand any competition, and you have it
easy, because your little sighted wife shows you everything going on on the
screen,
Phil replied: I am not about to make any disparaging comments about anyone's
family members as that's way below the belt. I will say this though, any
sighted help that I do have is extremely limited and I too have to spend a
lot of time, coaming the screen for buttons etc as you do.
Chris wrote: I don't begrudge you that, but I bet you couldn't get as far
without your built in eyes as some of us have by ourselves.
Phil replied: wild speculation on you're part. The fact is that we would
all get a lot further with all of this stuff with sighted help.
Chris wrote: Not that that's a big deal, but it's worth mentioning when you
feel it necessary to pull others down to make yourself look better.
Phil replied: well it's obviously a big deal to you. Wasn't me who
mentioned it.
Chris wrote: I think that's even been said to you on list by someone, even
recently, it might have been by the same friendly humble non-offensive
cubass user
I have never but lifted you up and even encouraged people to use you for
tutoring when I couldn't do it,k or even if i thought you might be better at
something, for instance, with hsc, you are undisputedly the king.
But you are so insecure, you have to slam me publically, and can not pay
equal respect.
Phil replied: as you well know, I have posted publicaly before about how
much respect I have for you.
Chris wrote: Well, not supprisingly when the going got tough you couldn't
even stand up for your own faith, choosing to be politically correct instead
of just correct.
Most on here won't know what I'm talking about, but you sure will Philly
boy.
Phil replied: I am not about to defend my faith here as 1, it's not the
place and 2, people who really know me, know exactly where I stand on that
so, no need to defend anything.
Chris wrote: So whether I get kicked off her for calling you out or now, I'm
not putting up with it anymore,\ if you think I'm not right, and really not
right, yes, i can accept correction, and I'll be the first to say, hey, my
bad, I said something wrong.
Phil replied: as I stated before, you didn't cover the fact that you can
access all 6 bannds in the track/bus EQ from within the track inspector.
Chris wrote: But this was just plane lame, and just flinging a pile of crap
there was nothing technically wrong in what I stated.
Because setting your options to open a plug-in and or manually insertintg it
amounts to just about the same thing, in the inspector pane you get 4 and in
the plug-in you get 6, and that was my point.
Phil replied: again you miss stated the facts. You can access all 6 bands
of the track/bus EQ in the track inspector which you did not state. Plus,
you can switch the Track/Bus EQ from pree to post in the track inspector
which, could be another good reason for using that over inserting a separate
EQ such as the Sonitus EQ.
Chris wrote: So in an edited version of my little brother Damon's famous nhb
radio salutation, f you, f you, and f you again.
Phil replied: That was edited? Seriously though, it's possible to bhe
eliquent without having to stoop to using the F word. May you have a
blessed day.
Chris wrote: Thank you for the in put of your giant brain.
Phil replied: It's the same size as everyone elses brain.
Chris wrote; No body knows as much as the great mighty Muure.
Phil replied: why thank you! Seriously though, I sure don't know
everything. Every day's a school day and if I don't know something then, I
will be up front and say that.
Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
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