As Bob Foster and the Orion team has pointed out, the implementations can tacitly
agree to create jsp92:includeIf, jsp92:loop, etc. and wait for the JSP team to flesh
out the core tags in 1.1.
I'd rather give the JSP team time to make the core tags nice, rather than forcing them
to rush through a half-baked proposal just to get it into 1.0. The usebean, getProp,
setProp, of 1.0 is much cleaner than the 0.92 proposal. And the jsp92:includeIf is
pretty messy. For example, I can't see the point of excludeif. If 'jsp:if' were done
properly, you could say something like <jsp:if test='<%= ! expr %>'>.
A little off topic pre-announcement announcement:
Caucho Technology's JSP 1.0 beta is now available for download at
http://www.caucho.com.
Caucho JSP comes with its own mini-httpd server and JSDK 2.1 servlet runner so you
just need a JDK to download and play.
The real announcement (beta 2) will come Real Soon Now, once the JavaScript support is
brought up to JSP 1.0 and the compatibility tags are implemented.
Scott Ferguson
Caucho Technology
Dave Ferguson wrote:
> Chris, I couldn't agree more! We were absolutely thrilled with the way we could use
>the simple tags from the 0.92 spec. It was perfect for our business model where we
>provide JavaBeans and a standard set of JSP pages to our customers. They will want
>customize the pages for their needs, and so we want to make that as simple as
>possible for them. It was a terrific selling point to show how simple the JSP's
>were, but how powerful they could be in terms of presenting dynamically-generated
>data. Tags were the perfect answer for us.
>
> I can't understand why the pro-scriptlet crowd wants to take away our tags. I don't
>have anything against scriptlets. They are great and extremely powerful. If you
>don't like tags, don't use them. There's nothing wrong with supporting both
>scriptlets AND tags. Hopefully, future versions of the spec will address these
>issues.
>
> - Dave F.
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