We can add a bullet point about Julia not eating your laundry. My point of view is that Julia's pre-1.0 status does not mean that it can do whatever it wants and we have no responsibility. Rather it sends the much milder signal that between now and 1.0 we may change the language and standard library in ways that will require you to change your code. Bugs that cause destructive behavior are no less serious now than later.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Valentin Churavy <v.chur...@gmail.com> wrote: > I like the point: Solving P=NP reminds me of rust's > > * In theory. Rust is a work-in-progress and may do anything it likes up to >> and including eating your laundry. > > > On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 19:15:05 UTC+1, Christian Peel wrote: >> >> One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development >> schedule. For example >> - Some kind of general roadmap >> - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come >> - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule? (yearly, six >> months, ...) >> - What features remain before a 1.0 release? >> - When will following arrive? >> > faster compilation >> > pre-compiled modules >> > Interactive debugging; line numbers for all errors >> > Automatic reload on file modification. >> > Solving P=NP >> >> I know that it's tough to make such a schedule, but anything that you can >> provide would be helpful. Also, I'd be happy for something like a weekly >> update; or a weekly blog post to help those who don't peruse this group in >> depth each day. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Chris >> >> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tamas Papp wrote: >>> >>> From the discussion, it looks like that homepages for programming >>> languages (and realed projects) serve two purposes: >>> >>> A. provide resources for the existing users (links to mailing lists, >>> package directories, documentation, etc) >>> >>> B. provide information for potential new users (showcasing features of >>> the language, links to tutorials). >>> >>> Given that space on the very front page is constrained (in the soft >>> sense: no one wants pages that go on and on any more), I think that >>> deciding on a balance between A and B would be a good way to focus the >>> discussion. >>> >>> Once we have decided that, we can shamelessly copy good practices. >>> >>> For example, >>> >>> 1. the R website emphasizes content for existing users (in a non-flashy >>> way that I am OK with), with very little material for new users, >>> >>> 2. about 1/3 of the middle bar on >>> https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell is for new users >>> (explanations/tutorials/etc), the 1/3 is for existing users (specs, >>> libraries), and the final 1/3 is for both (forums, wiki, etc), >>> >>> 3. http://new-www.haskell.org/ is mostly caters to potential new users >>> ("see how great this language is"), >>> >>> 4. the content of clojure.org is similarly for potential new users, >>> while the sidebar has links for existing users. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Tamas >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10 2014, Hans W Borchers <hwbor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Look at the R home page. R is one of the most popular languages, and >>> esp. so >>> > for statistical and computational applications. A programming language >>> does >>> > not need bloated home pages. >>> > >>> > I like the old Haskell home page much more than the new one. The new >>> one >>> > has >>> > large, uninformative background pictures and not much information in a >>> > small >>> > and readable view. The HaskellWiki front page was much better in that. >>> It >>> > may >>> > not even be decided which version will win. >>> > >>> > [Clojure])http://clojure.org/) has a nice, simple and informative >>> home >>> > page, >>> > while [Scala](http://www.scala-lang.org/) has overdone it like the >>> new >>> > Haskell. For other approaches see the [Nim](http://nimrod-lang.org/) >>> - >>> > formerly 'Nimrod' - and [Nemerle](http://nemerle.org/) home pages. >>> > >>> > In the end I feel the condensed form of the Python home page will >>> attract >>> > more interest, for example with 'latest news' and 'upcoming events' on >>> the >>> > first page.This gives the impression of a lively and engaged >>> community. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:23:37 AM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I like the Haskell one better than the Rust one. >>> >> >>> >> --Tim >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>
