HI Arnd,

  Would it be helpful to work around the problem by saving the points as a
shapefile and using a utility like shp2tile to break the point data up into
multiple files?

see: http://imaptools.com/download-software.html

regards,
Larry

On 10/2/07, Arnd Kielhorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> thank You for the tip with the z-value, but how I can use it as a
> z-value on the point itself?
>
> The file fomrat is txt, csv (from PIROL CSV-Format) like following example
> $Rechts    Hoch    heigh
> $grad    grad    m
> $double    double    double
> 3434000.00    5800000.00    93.78
> 3434001.00    5800000.00    93.84
> ...   ...   ...
>
> or the ESRI ascii grid format asc (reading plugin from SIGLE).
> The most files I got have 1 million points and such csv files have about
> 30 MB.
> In my start file for OJ I got 768 MB, because I have 1 GB RAM.
>
> Kindly regards
> Arnd
>
>
> Paul Austin schrieb:
> > Arnd,
> >
> > What file format are you using?
> >
> > As JUMP loads the whole file into memory I would recommend setting the
> > heap size on the JAVA VM to be -Xmx512M if you are dealing with large
> > datasets.
> >
> > You mentioned that the height is an attribute on the feature, if you use
> > the height as a z-value on the point itself there will be some memory
> > savings.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Arnd Kielhorn wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Larry,
> >>
> >> as in the further discussion just named the main problema are (for
> >> example I just have to work with point layers with only a heigh
> >> attribute but with 1 million points; but also e.g. 300,000 points are
> >> enough):
> >> - (re)drawing of the points
> >> - strongly restricted or impossible operation (e.g. deleting some
> >> points/vertices after marking them; e.g. copying hundreds or a few
> >> thousand in a new layer to have layer with lesser points)
> >> Very often OJ hangs on and I have to restart it.
> >> I use such point layers for creating a digital terrain maps.
> >>
> >> Kindly regards
> >> Arnd
> >>
> >> Larry Becker schrieb:
> >>
> >>> Hi Arnd,
> >>>
> >>>   I haven't worked with large point datasets much.  What it is
> >>> exactly that is slow?  Is it redraw time?  Or perhaps the particular
> >>> operation that you are doing?
> >>>
> >>>   I know that point layers do not benefit from the recent decimation
> >>> optimization, so they take longer to draw than equivalent polygons
> >>> and polyline layers.  I think Michaël tried a point decimation
> >>> optimization, but wasn't satisfied with the results.
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> Larry Becker
> >>>
> >>> On 10/1/07, *Stefan Steiniger* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     mhm
> >>>     from my point of view it is both OJ and JRE. It would be probably
> >>>     better
> >>>     when the points are stored and processes in a database.
> >>>
> >>>     stefan
> >>>
> >>>     Arnd Kielhorn schrieb:
> >>>     > Hello,
> >>>     >
> >>>     > yes I know, first of all OJ is a GIS for vector data. But the
> >>>     > functionality is also very good for point datasets. But working
> >>> with
> >>>     > great point datasets (more 500,000 points) bring problems with
> the
> >>>     > memory and the garbage collector works not satisfied. Every
> >>>     command take
> >>>     > a lot of time or could not carried out. (CPU P4 2.4 GHz, 1 GB
> RAM)
> >>>     > Is it only a thing of the JRE or also from OJ?
> >>>     > So, it is useful to know if there is a chance to increase the
> >>>     > performence of OJ in this case and what could be the possible
> >>>     milestones
> >>>     > to reach this aim?
> >>>     > I am very eager to read everyones opion.
> >>>     >
> >>>     > Kindly regards
> >>>     > Arnd
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