Please clarify.  Did you develop it for them for a fee or did you tell
them that you were giving it to them?  

You should look at this, which may apply:

http://www.music-law.com/workforhire.html

We (GSI) actually specifically state that the work we do for a client is
"Work for Hire" on development projects, thus giving them Copyright to
that work.  We have actually had a number of clients come to us because
they have been burned by someone who did a project for them, and then
had a VERY similar tool be sold to their competitor.

If you agreed to develop it for them, took their money, etc... then I
would say the expectation on their part is not unreasonable.  They
should be able to have a copy of the code, the db, and any other moving
parts that constitute "the system" that you built to meet their
requirements.

Also, it is always good to notify customers when you specifically are
leveraging existing technologies inside of a solution.  This would
include existing CF code, COM objects, etc...  

Robin Greenhagen
GSI




-----Original Message-----
From: Adaryl Wakefield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [KCFusion] Intellectual property question

We actually had a pretty rousing discussion about this a while back. I
thought it was under the subject of ethics but a search of the archives
turned up nothing. Anybody else remember that?
I think that the short answer to your question is make sure you have a
contract. NEVER work w/o one and have it prepared by an attorney.
I think that the conclusion that we reached was once you hand over your
work
your client owns it.

Adaryl "Did you reboot?" Wakefield
Aviator by passion
Programmer by sheer force of will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: [KCFusion] Intellectual property question


> Let's say that I develop a content management application for a
client.
The
> client provides images and content, I provide the layout, navigational
> scheme and application that makes it all work.
>
> Without a contract to define otherwise, who owns what?
>
> I assume that the client owns content and images. Can the client also
claim
> ownership of the application (cfm) files and/or database?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Billy Cox
>
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