ohh well, i guess everybody lies.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Gerald Quimpo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 31 May 2008 03:33:15 tildemark wrote: >> as for me, i would focus more on getting myself graduate rather than >> making other people insure a better job for me in the future. lets be >> practical, a lot of people ended up in the wrong job than what they >> actually study. i have a friend a licensed doctor but he works as a >> visual basic programmer. >> >> i say what matters most is that you must graduate with one degree to >> get a job fast. which would you get the degree fast? compsci or >> nursing? >> >> just do your research on your job to be company and answer every >> question intelligently, even if your low on iq, youll pass. the secret >> is to empress the employer at the interview. > > you make a great point about graduating first. strongly agree there. > either of those degrees will help the OP mature as a person (learn > things he'll need in the outside world, any degree helps if he tries > to go overseas, learn how to get along with people, learn how to > do work as a member of a team, gain general knowledge [history, > economics, math, science, english] that he probably wouldn't gain > without college because most people don't learn new things for > fun). OTOH, while it's true that almost any degree will help, > choosing the degree that he'll actually use when working is > better. and, while i'm not a fan of premature optimization, > taking the time to consider his choices and making the right choice > is not, IMO premature. this is why i think it's important for the > OP to consider his actual capabilities and strengths, likes and > dislikes in making his career choices. > > i don't agree, however, with your last paragraph. if you interview > for a job and find that you're not qualified for the job due to inherent > deficiencies (not enough IQ), it's better to withdraw your application. > if the deficiency is just knowledge, then it's IMPORTANT to inform > the employer of the deficiency, and then to make the point (but only > if it's true) that you're willing to learn and are a fast learner. > > the principle involved there is to develop your moral sense. tell > the truth, do the right thing(s). don't just do or say whatever will > get you the job. > > for people with the right skills, capabilities and attitude, there are > always opportunities and openings. you can gain skills. you can > improve some capabilities, some skills can make up for *some* > (certainly not all though) capability scores, and the right attitude > can make up for a lot of things. > > if the OP just *needs* a job. it's probably better to take a job that > pays less but requires lower skills, AND THEN do whatever he can > at that job to augment his skills, learn how to work with others > (bosses or otherwise) and learn how to solve problems in the real > world. > > at the OP's age and stage in his career, there are a lot of things to be > learned. his first job should be one that allows him to learn or at > least allows him the leisure (at home, after office hours) to learn > what he'll need to move forward. the focus, in the first job should > not be on salary. he should make enough to live on, but he should > not focus on salary. the ability and opportunity, at that job, to > learn things that will enhance his skills is just as important than > salary. i would say that as long as the salary keeps him alive, > then the learning on the job (and therefore the culture and > environment at work, better cultures encourage improvement, > cultures that stifle improvement and learning are to be avoided) > is more important than salary or anything else. > > i don't expect many to agree :-). this sort of perspective is > what you gain after making mistakes in your career choices > over decades :-). many people also make the wrong choices, > end up in dead end positions, and don't learn. others are able > to impress their interviewers and therefore make a lot of money > and then stay at those positions because their employers are just > as clueless as they are :-). i've mostly worked with the first kind. > it's very painful to work with people who mainly write bugs. > the second kind become managers. i've been lucky with my > managers. i've seen what bad (and incredibly bad) managers > can do to a team though. > > tiger > > -- > Gerald Timothy Quimpo [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://bopolissimus*blogspot*com http://monotrematica*blogspot*com > If you want to subject your son to the unkindest cut, insist on a local > anesthetic, since many pediatricians don't bother to use one. > > The anesthetic is for the kid. > -- http://men.msn.com/articlebl.aspx?cp-documentid=1011575 > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex? - http://www.tildemark.com/ _________________________________________________ Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (http://cdo.linux.org.ph) Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
