What about high altitude flying in the winter time? Sense ethanol will hold 
moisture how do you prevent freezing? Sounds like you all have done a lot of 
research just ask. 

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> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:27 AM, billjacobs386 at yahoo.com via KRnet <krnet at 
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>    Probably the same reason most auto oriented stay away. Availability. I 
> agree with everything you said. Fuel consumption increases slightly to 
> compensate for power density. Some of the fastest cars on the planet run it 
> and i would set up for it too. If i could RELIABLY find it.My 2C
> Bill Jacobs
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> ------ Original message------From: andrew via KRnet Date: Sun, Jun 5, 2016 
> 11:06 PMTo: krnet at list.krnet.org;Cc: andrew;Subject:KR> EthanolHere goes 
> the spoon feed ?Don?t use it?. As I?m working on blue prints for the 
> KRSuper1, and getting my outside research done. I am settled on one huge 
> taboo of the aviation community. This bad boy is going to be tuned and built 
> to run primarily on ethanol.?But Cessna and the big aviation companies says 
> it?s horrible.? Hold on and let me get some hand on acknowledge your way.Dr. 
> Maxwell Schauck has been flying on ethanol since the 1980?s, and flew across 
> the Atlantic in his Velocity back in 1989. While I was attending his program 
> at Baylor University I got to participate in his research for 4 years. In 
> that four years I came to find out a few things.1. Ethanol is a superior fuel 
> to 100LL.2. Oil companies will do everything to keep it out of mainstream 
> use3. Ethanol has a natural octane of 1134. Ethanol burns cooler, and will 
> run smooth at 50 degrees past peak EGT5. If you add water, you get a 
> horsepower boost, AND you don?t have to worry about it damaging your engine6. 
> Ethanol reduces engine vibrations by 50%.7. Ethanol doesn?t react with oil in 
> the same manor as 100ll or mogas8. Ethanol will eat aluminum and natural 
> rubber. Easily combated by anodizing and using Teflon9. If an engine is tuned 
> to ethanol vs. 100LL, you get a significant horsepower boost with minimal GPH 
> increase.This is all based on my personal experience working on our 
> departments Pitts S2B, Cessna 152, Cessna 172, Velocity, Piper Aztec, and Max 
> Performance Research aircraft prototype. We averaged a horsepower increase of 
> roughly 30-35% increase with ethanol vs. avgas, with no changes to the 
> mechanical tuning on the engine. To the point we had to order custom props 
> for all our aircraft, due to engine overspeed with the standard propellers. 
> (The Pitts S2B ran 300HP on 100LL and 350HP on ethanol).We also did water in 
> fuel testing for the FAA while getting our Cessna?s STCs updated (yes, Dr. 
> Schauck owns the STCs for 152s and 172s to be flown on 100% ethanol in 
> utility category). We were able to add 10% water to the fuel tanks before 
> reaching peak EGTs. Had we tuned the engine this percentage would have gone 
> up.So why am I sharing; I plan on building the first KR that is designed to 
> fly on ethanol. And foreseeing the usual arguments I figured I would head off 
> most prior to having to repeat. So a Corvair with 100HP should obtain 130HP 
> simply by tuning to run on the 113 Octane ethanol. But we shall see when we 
> get to that part of my build.What are your thoughts on the matter?Sent from 
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