I think there is some confusion going on here in terms of the word  
"machine". The contraption on which Spanier Arbit is made looks like a big 
round  
drum sitting on a platform. The platform has a vertical frame on it, and the  
devices that hold the thread are looped over it. It may look like a 
machine, but  it is really an elaborate lace pillow. However, in an earlier 
post 
regarding the  inquiry from an individual who seems interested in 
manufacturing modern day  Jewish ritual items, Avital told him that he would 
either have 
to set up a sweat  shop, or use very coarse materials or "manufactured 
braid" for Spanier  Arbit.
 
So this is an interesting question, in itself. Would manufactured braid be  
an acceptable alternative for Spanier Arbit? Is it being used now? The 
Spanier  Arbit that we have seen is all historical, in that it doesn't seem to 
be made  now. Is a manufactured braid being substituted for it, or have 
people simply  abandoned the decorative scheme of a metallic braid that is 
cleverly coiled in  elaborate designs for distinctively Jewish items? Likewise, 
would Spanier Arbit  made in a sweat shop in Asia be desirable to the Jewish 
community, or does  the appeal lie in its distinctive history? "This was 
probably the only textile  technique used solely by the Jewish community", they 
say in the Laces from the  Collections of the Jewish Museum in Prague. 
(Although, in light Gabrielle's  posting, this would seem to be open to debate.)
 
Devon
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/14/2011 11:55:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I don't  think the version I saw is mechanical but I would have to go
back and take  a look at the video. I have this vague recollection that
the video was more  of an interview with someone (not David Farkas of
Brooklyn but someone who  isn't trying to keep it a secret). I think
it's a hand-done  process.

Yes, I am aware that Spanierarbeit = Spanish work, but  these
geographical names tend to be very slippery! (For example,  blackwork
embroidery has a long history of being called Spanish  stitch.)

Avital

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:15 PM, bev walker  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Avital (and  everyone)
>
> This is a most interesting lace topic. Would the  mechanized version
> you describe have been derived from the hand-done?  or vice versa...
> Or are they both from a third source?
>  'Spanier arbeit' translates to 'Spanish work' (German to English) - is
>  there a Spanish source I wonder - real or supposed.

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