On Wednesday 01 November 2006 00:43, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:41:50PM -0800, johnf wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 October 2006 14:12, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > > I think full time python programmers are more rare than full time
> > > pascal/delphi programmers.
> >
> > First let me say I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. But I hope it's true. I
> > just wonder what evidence you have.
>
> Local and national papers. Netherlands. NW Europe (NL, Germany Belgium
> France) is said to be a Delphi stronghold though. (as far as you can speak
> about Delphi strongholds nowadays, according to Borlands own remarks)
>
> Of course .NET jobs (60:40 C#:VB.NET, nothing else) and Java, and then a
> magnitude less C++, but that still outdoes Delphi at least 10:1, and VB6 is
> also still in demand.
>
> >From the scripting languages I see sometimes (regularly even) PHP
> > experience
>
> in the lower end webprogrammer jobs, but that is all. The big apps are all
> made in ASP.NET. PHP is to set up a simple portal or forum. Seems to be the
> difference between webmaster and webprogrammer a bit.
>
> > I could use the evidence to support my next sale. And what area of the
> > world does this apply. You know I just got off the phone with a
> > programmer who said "working on a Pascal program! I gave that up with
> > Cobol". When he realized I took offense he suggested that he had nothing
> > against Pascal. Man would I like to change that kind thinking!
>
> I from time to time see Cobol jobs in those newspapers. There are still
> truckloads of Cobol code at financial institutions.
>
> I've gotten remarks like that for 5 full days at the Systems 2005 fair last
> year. If you got down to the bottom of that, it is usually based on a short
> 10 hr initial programming code in TP (that usually looked hopelessly old in
> their eyes, euuh, because it then actually already WAS old). If you say
> Delphi, the attitude already changes.
>
> Despite all FUD, afaik Delphi is still development system number #2 by
> sales, after MS' VS.
Thanks for the information. I checked borland's site but didn't find anything
in the news section. Anyway, I just show the screens and most of the time
people don't ask what it was written in.
John
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