thanks for everyone's help and input. you know what they say - a little knowldege is a dangerous thing.
anyway, su now works. basically, as root i did: "chmod 4111 /usr/local/bin/su" (not "chmod +4111 /usr/local/bin/su" - the "+411" in my last email was a typo - i had been trying "+4111") i don't really know linux very well at all, but when i saw what the permisions should actually look like, i played a little with the "chmod" command. and removing the "+" character did the trick. ls -l for su now reads: ---s--x--x and this works fine. i don't think i really need to have read/write access to su, do I? and if i do, i can always change that later as root, right? (obviously, i also DID NOT save to floppy any of my experimentation on /etc/shadow. just reboot and all the mistakes i may have made are gone) thanks for everyones help. ted ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
