No. We limped over the line in league 1. We lost out to late goals. Fell short 
at the end last season. All the things they didn't.

We can't compare to Norwich over last 2 years


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From: Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:16:04 
To: Matt Anderson<m...@leeds-united.net>
Cc: <markbu...@aol.com><markbu...@aol.com>; 
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another

We had the same though, didn't we?

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On 29 Jul 2011, at 09:50, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:

> And they got lucky with a good manager,  a crop of decent players and
> momentum.
> 
> Wouldn't be surprised if they get off to a flyer in the  premier because
> they have known nothing but success for 2 seasons, late goals,  big  wins,
> silverwear.
> 
> Norwich are an exceptional case
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> Behalf Of Ian Murray
> Sent: 29 July 2011 08:36
> To: markbu...@aol.com
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
> 
> Ha ha - as if. We're a 'meal ticket' - presumably THAT's why we've had a net
> loss of first team players despite our position as biggest club in the
> league. 
> 
> I'm presuming it's not your money being trousered?
> 
> The 'Norwich model' was based on keeping a team of talented young players
> together, building confidence and success. It was not based on letting those
> players walk for fck all because you're too short sighted and greedy to care
> about the success of the football club. It didn't feature many has beens or
> loan players iirc. The difference between us and Norwich is that the Norwich
> board wanted the football team to be successful above all else.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29 Jul 2011, at 01:47, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>>>> The main thrust of my argument was that it would force us to pay  
>>>> going
>> rate, ie towards the middle if the bell curve.<<
>> 
>> 
>> Do you not believe we are already there? It's clear that footballers'  
>> agents see Leeds as a meal ticket for their journeyman clients. 
>> Biggest club in the division, with a recent history of wildly 
>> overpaying for average players.  And I guess Bates is making a stand
> against that.
>> 
>> Meanwhile a couple of sugardaddy-funded, decent-sized clubs 
>> (Leicester,
>> Ipswich) believe that they can buy their way to glory by paying top 
>> whack for a  few marginal talents (Konchesky etc).
>> 
>> Just like Cardiff have done for several seasons, or Middlesborough. 
>> And guess what - it's no guarantee of success. What does work is a 
>> well-managed group of players that gels as a team - like Norwich over 
>> the past two seasons.  And the Norwich model proves that success can 
>> be found at the lower end of your  beloved "bell" ;-)
>> 
>> 
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