So why post?! Sent from my iPhone
On 09/07/2013, at 1:49, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote: > I don't think me or his bank manager care. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:17, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> How many majors did he win? And why didn't he win any?! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 09/07/2013, at 0:16, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote: >> >>> FFS, he was number one in the world for years. I'd love to be that weak >>> minded >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:14, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> No but he bottled the majors. No other reason he didn't win one. He had >>>> the talent but nerves meant that he couldn't convert. Isn't that the very >>>> definition of bottler? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 09/07/2013, at 0:11, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So you're gonna ignore his Ryder cup record ? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he >>>>>>> reached his 3rd final. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in >>>>>>> 2001 saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming >>>>>>> back the following day was a whole new ball game. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? >>>>>> In a word: yes >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But >>>>>>>> they gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - >>>>>>>> if they are there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. >>>>>>>> You make some good points but this is total bobbins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he >>>>>>>> bottled it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental >>>>>>>> strength to win a slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just >>>>>>>> a plain fact mate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just >>>>>>>>> because he was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name >>>>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson >>>>>>>>> ridge ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, >>>>>>>>> maximising his talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a >>>>>>>>> loser. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, >>>>>>>>> me or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>>>>>>>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>>>>>>>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and >>>>>>>>> wailing about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total >>>>>>>>> indifference for the other 50 weeks of the year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been >>>>>>>>>> officially called 'Herman hill'? >>>>>>>>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd >>>>>>>>>>> becoming Grayson Grove ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>>>>>>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around >>>>>>>>>>> then. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the >>>>>>>>>>> maths would be so challenging. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam >>>>>>>>>>> then more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is >>>>>>>>>> a loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled >>>>>>>>>> it every time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't think it is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sportsman. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in >>>>>>>>>>>>> defeat as in victory. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have >>>>>>>>>>>>> been - 1 v 2 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the >>>>>>>>>>>>> english man won >>>>>>>>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why >>>>>>>>>>>>> would I? but >>>>>>>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english >>>>>>>>>>>>> man won >>>>>>>>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>>>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree >>>>>>>>>>>>> with you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when >>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while >>>>>>>>>>>>> wearing Brit kit) win gold in London 2012. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they will not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for >>>>>>>>>>>>> both Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want him to lose. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hill' when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the >>>>>>>>>>>>> name doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there >>>>>>>>>>>> to support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. >>>>>>>>>>>> Murray Mound. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sampras) and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the >>>>>>>>>>>>> weather. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having >>>>>>>>>>>>> to pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a >>>>>>>>>>>> loser. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>>>>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
