Ooooh! A list war! We haven't had one of them since I don't know how long!
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 5:41 PM Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com> wrote: > What an utter rewriting of history! > We wouldn't be bloody third if it wasn't for Farke. IF this was under > Marsch bleat bleat bleat we'd have lost 3-0. If not we would ALL to a man > have been singing his praises if he'd been unbeaten at home after 21 games. > You moan about us not going down the wings and then dare to mention Jesse > "Down the middle Raphina!" Marsch ffs! > You can't decide if he's good or lucky? Bloody good job you don't have to > then. > Farke's decisions and tactics have got us where we are, you talk as if we > have a God given right to be in the top two. Newsflash, we don't! Being > third best in the league is a lot bloody better than being third worst, in > case you can't remember. > We can’t stop Leicester and Ipswich having a rip roaring season but what we > can do is acknowledge that we're having one too, you miserable sod. > Cheer up and enjoy the ride. > Paul > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2024, 15:45 seanscr...@aol.com, <seanscr...@aol.com> wrote: > > > Paul, > > > > None of that matters if we don't get promoted. Next season we'll have a > > weaker squad (we're constantly being told that we're going to have to > sell > > if we don't go up), a smaller budget (smaller parachute payment in the > > second season down) and have to compete with three clubs coming down who > > have larger parachute payments. Farke has managed a lot of stuff well, > but > > being third best in the league counts for nothing. (If Ampadu writes an > > autobiography, he might title it "You Get Nowt for Coming Third.") > > > > Maybe my definition of "car crash" in this context is different from some > > other people's. To me "close but no cigar" in the Championship for Leeds > > United is a car crash. Same with the 2000-2001 season in the Premier > League > > - a lot of good football, but ultimately failed to win anything or finish > > in the Champions League places, which triggered a near-fatal decline. I > > remember walking out of the pub (in the British Embassy, no less) after > > watching the home draw with ManU with a sick feeling in my stomach about > > how the two dropped points - thanks to the ref - might cos us. (Little > did > > I know how much!) In other words, I hate almost winning. It's victory or > > nothing. > > > > Again, I cannot decide whether Farke is a good manager, or just blessed > > with a terrific squad. > > > > To the folks who replied to my email: > > > > - Did you agree with Farke's team selection? > > - Did you seriously think Farke got the timing of the subs right > yesterday? > > - Were you happy with the way we allowed Sunderland to get set every time > > before we attacked them? > > - Did you enjoy watching players turn and pass back to Ampadu and Rodon, > > and then watch them pass between themselves? > > - Did you agree with the favoring of playing down the left rather than > the > > right for the vast majority of attempted attacks? > > > > If Jesse Marsch had been stood in the dugout instead of Farke, I can only > > imagine the howls of indignation that performance would have provoked. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Sean > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 08:49:39 AM EDT, Paul Cundell < > > p...@cundell.com> wrote: > > > > > > Have you been watching the same season as me? > > "One long slow motion car crash"? > > We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year. > > We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at masterminded that. > > A car crash was Jesse Marsch. > > A car crash was all Orta's release clauses being triggered in August. > > This is quite possibly the rarest of seasons where the third place team > > could end up on over 100 points. > > SMFH. > > Marching On TOGETHER! > > Paul > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 12:25, seanscribe--- via Leedslist < > > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > > > > > You're absolutely right. I haven't been this angry at a Leeds manager > in > > > some time. What the hell is he telling the players? We have two of the > > most > > > devastating wingers in the league, including (possibly) the fastest > > winger > > > (fastest player?) in the division in Dan James. At no point during > > > yesterday's game did the team move the ball to those players EARLY, to > > > allow them to exploit the space in front of them. Again and again and > > again > > > - so often that it MUST be based on orders from Farke, when the > > opportunity > > > for a fast break beckoned, the ball was passed sideways back and forth > > > between the centre-halves so that the opposition could get themselves > set > > > before we tried to move down the field. It was absolutely maddening. > > > It wasn't just Archie, Dan James was asking for the ball in space and > > > never getting it until he had two defenders on him. The whole tactical > > > approach seemed designed to negate our own strengths (think of all the > > > terrific goals we scored earlier in the season from fast breaks out of > > > defence). Even as the clock ticked down, our fullbacks and midfielders > > were > > > still turning on their heels and passing it back to Rodon and Ampadu, > who > > > would then pass it sideways, as if we were protecting a lead rather > than > > > trying to score. There was a complete lack of hunger and desire > evident. > > > And then there's Farke's inexplicable (and inexcusable) decision to > delay > > > bringing on most of the subs until the 82nd minute. What on earth was > he > > > thinking? We had no spark on the field, looked tired and uninterested, > > and > > > we had Gnonto, Joseph and Anthony stewing on the bench. If ever a > > > collective performance was calling for wholesale changes at halftime or > > > shortly thereafter, it was yesterday's. I shudder to think of Farke > going > > > up against some of the managers in the Premier League. Like a lot of > > > managers, he comes across well in press conferences, and I acknowledge > > that > > > the EFL (deliberately, in my opinion) made his job harder at the start > of > > > the season by taking much longer than normal to approve the takeover. > And > > > of course we have had some terrible refereeing decisions - yesterday > > being > > > exhibit A in this regard. But Farke has an extraordinary squad at this > > > level, packed with current internationals and young talent being > scouted > > by > > > the world's richest clubs, and he's coming up third best in England's > > > second tier. Last night was an absolute indictment. > > > This season has been one long slow-motion car crash. I told my friends > > and > > > family before the season that my prediction was we would go out in the > > > playoffs. Every game seems to be moving us closer to that inevitable > > > outcome, and that's not good enough for Leeds United. > > > Cheers! > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:43:51 AM EDT, Damian WALSH < > > > damian.wa...@euromaster.com> wrote: > > > > > > Don't get frustrated with Cree & (especially) Georgino losing the > ball. > > A > > > mild grinding of teeth will have to do :) > > > > > > If they're losing the ball then they're doing their job trying to > provoke > > > something and we've got to accept that it doesn't come off every time. > > > > > > However the number of times they lost the ball because they ran into > each > > > other or another Leeds player (Firpo featured several times here) was > > > indeed annoying. > > > > > > As for Gray - why wouldn't Rodon pass to him? Was it "instructions"? > > > Whatever, by half way through the 2nd half Sunderland were completely > > > ignoring him because they knew he wouldn't get the pass - it gave them > an > > > extra man to crowd out the centre. Poor Gray spent most of the 2nd half > > > stood on his own, arms outstretched waiting for the ball that never > came. > > > It's almost like Farke says "give it to Cree or Rutter lads and watch > > them > > > do something"... > > > > > > Damian > > > > > > Le mer. 10 avr. 2024 à 09:43, John Lee via Leedslist < > > leedslist@gn.apc.org > > > > > > > a écrit : > > > > > > > I decided against commenting immediately Nick, because it was a > pretty > > > > under-whelming display. Like you, I think the players look knackered, > > and > > > > have just lost their mojo. Summerville & Rutter have had some really > > > > ineffective moments, and I can’t deny how frustrating their constant > > > losing > > > > the ball gets? I thought Ampadu and Rodon looked jiggered too last > > > night. I > > > > actually thought Bamford looked pretty sprightly last night, despite > > that > > > > Pike-lookalikey clattering him repeatedly. Of course he never really > > > looked > > > > like scoring though - I was willing him to get a couple, but aside > > from a > > > > rubbish shot he didn’t get much of a sniff. I don’t see him being a > > Leeds > > > > player next season, so really hope he can go out on something of a > high > > > and > > > > bag a couple soon. > > > > > > > > I thought we played so conservatively in the 1st Half by design - > > > avoiding > > > > expending energy and not getting injuries so knock it around at the > > back > > > > and hope for a lucky break, which didn’t come. Second half we tried, > > but > > > to > > > > give Scumderland credit, they defended well, and aided by a > > > > partially-sighted ref , they got what they came for? > > > > > > > > That point might be crucial at the end of the season though, so on we > > go. > > > > > > > > I will make the point that hitting an average run of form if the > > > play-offs > > > > are where we’re heading doesn’t fill me with confidence. It’s been a > > > great > > > > season so far though - just hoping the players get some rest and put > > > > Blackburn away on Satdi! > > > > > > > > MOT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > On 10 Apr 2024, at 07:54, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Notable lack of comments on here since Saturday. > > > > > > > > > > Ampadu - Meslier - Rodon > > > > > > > > > > My foremost impression from last night was how tired everyone in > the > > > > starting outfield 10 looked. With the exception of Gruev, and > possibly > > > > Gray, they were listless, not just physically less sharp - slower to > > the > > > > loose ball, less running into space, slower to close down, less > > movement > > > > for the guy with ball - but we seemed mentally off it as well. All > the > > > > things people tried didn’t come off. It doesn’t make them bad players > > all > > > > of a sudden. > > > > > > > > > > Ampadu - Rodon - Meslier - Rodon - Ampadu > > > > > > > > > > A combined total of 4 shots on goal, is poor by anyone’s reckoning. > > > > > > > > > > Meslier - Rodon - Meslier - Ampadu > > > > > > > > > > Unbelievably though, for a team moving up to second with four games > > to > > > > go, there were scattered boos in the Kop at the final whistle. > > > > > > > > > > We don’t have to finish above both Ipswich and Leicester, just one > of > > > > them will do. > > > > > > > > > > Meslier - Rodon - Ampadu - Rodon > > > > > > > > > > Onto Saturday then. We can still do this. > > > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Leedslist mailing list > > > > > Info and options: > > > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > > > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > > > > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > > > > > > > Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! R.I.P. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leedslist mailing list > > > > Info and options: > > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > > > > > Dave Dowden, a legend, a Totty Twin, a pie man! 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