Well as you keep bringing up your hypothetical ebay analogy (and don't even
get me started on house sales, which, really is something I know a lot about
and have the licenses and awards to prove it)..... and how the number of
bidders will, automatically get the best price, regardless of the seller's
motivation and need.... I'm willing to accept that you fail to grasp my
grasp of that analogy, so instead.....

Let's talk about another recent sale, that we can all relate to; where there
were indeed multiple offers and eager bidders...

Did the highest price and the best payback to creditors secure ownership of
Leeds United.?

Again you are claiming facts that are actually, possibilities, likelihoods,
scenarios etc...nothing cut and dried...They are all subject to gray areas
and outside influences, some more open and transparent than others, but none
the less they usually exist. All can effect the price and the way in which
negotiations are completed.

Grow up and then come join us in the real world...

Cheers,

PS...If you must copy and paste the entire history of this conversation in
every mail you send...please at least have the courtesy to take time to send
it only to the list...(though I'm sure they'd rather you cut down the
history to the relevant part too, if at all) I do not need two over sized
copies of your drivel in my mail box... It seems your mailing etiquette is
as lazy as your thought  processes...


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Humphries
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:07 AM
To: 'Nigel Holcroft'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LU] Wage deferrals - Healy + who?

Unlike your arguments/reasoning.  All you have done is copy someone else's
statement about me stating opinions as facts.  As if that was a fact indeed.


If I state a 'fact' which turns out not to be the case then all it takes is
someone to turn round and put me right.  For example deep in the mists of
time I thought it was Krasner's lot who sold Kewell, when it was pointed out
to me that it was the professor's work.

You replied to a post where I was simply confirming your opinion/stance,
what's the matter - worried that it sounds a bit dodgy all of a sudden?

I will give you a fact here, again, and you tell me if it is wrong..

If there is more than 1 person interested in acquiring a scarce resource (ie
a football player they think they need) then those interested parties will
be conscious of losing out to the others, and therefore offer either

1. Their best price (which may not be good enough).
2. The asking price
3. Higher than the other people

Fact number two.  If there is only 1 person interested in buying that scarce
resource, and they know the seller has to get rid then they might

1. Still offer their best price
2. Still offer the asking price
3. Attempt to take advantage and offer a lower price they would otherwise
do.

Fulham and Sunderland apparently want Healy.  They wanted him before Bates
made any comment.  Do you think they will BOTH offer less now, risking
losing out to the other side for the sake of £500k or so?

You clearly think they both will.

I don’t think they will.

You couldn’t grasp the ebay analogy, how about selling a house?  If you
really want the house and are the only person interested you might be
inclined to offer a cheeky low offer.  If you know there were other people
about to offer would you risk it or would you go in with a serious offer
immediately?

Plus we also have the fact it is Bates we are talking about here, if he
thinks either (or both) Fulham and Sunderland are taking the piss he will
simply not deal with them.  That's my opinion.

If there are any qualified economics experts on the list I would be happy to
be put straight..



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