----- Original Message ----- I have taken your advice and hit the reply all button to your email. The reason for your email is clear and results from my own mistake but its contents require response.
> I have a track record in business, far longer than you would know, and I > rarely have mentioned it onlist covering many years You are right in that I don't know but I'll add that I don't want to know. I would doubt that any of your "business" activities are unknown to anyone who has been on this list for any length of time. > If you contact Jane about anything to do with my professional life I will > make sure your knackers are in the preverbial platter, No worries there then. The whole point is that I want nothing to do with your professional life, whatever that is. If you would keep your business life and any mention of Leeds United 100% separate then there wouldn't be a problem. >C M and myself have a track record in a distant sense, and I have not >spoken to IMG or Jane since I was requested to help his brother a couple >of years ago It is unclear to me why you would want to send me (again) contact details for the PA of a professional golfer that you only have a distant "track record" with. It sounds like I may have spoken to his management company more recently than you have but that is hardly a bragging point. I have never met or even spoken to the man and feel no reason to name-drop him. > I also want you to retract the statement I was trying to promote my golf > business to Leeds fans, suggesting I was ripping them off - I would get > them a > deal not on offer to the public and at the 'rack rates' You WERE promoting your golf business to Leedslisters. That is a fact and cannot be retracted. If you read what I wrote I never said that you were ripping "them" off. The only mention of a rip off comes from yourself and I wonder why it sprang into your mind. "Rack rates" are the walk up rates displayed at hotel reception. These are the most expensive rates available at any establishment. Unless your offer to listers was at below cost to yourself then it still counts as promoting your business. Even then, have you ever heard of loss leaders in your long business career ? > Nor did I post my company website at any stage You may think that this is an example of your showing admirable restraint. Others, including myself, may not see this as being deserving of brownie points. Please continue not posting your company website. Anyone who would like to see it will no doubt contact you offlist.(note to listers- If you do ask then don't forget to ask about the Branson blog. It is well worth a look on a rainy afternoon). > Dr Mike in his signature has his business details, maybe you should use > them You may be right in that if the current situation last much longer. > If I do not recieve an email or phone call within the hour apologising, I > will be visiting my solicitor this afternoon, Assuming that he is the same solicitor that I have spoken to before then please give him my regards. He seemed like a nice intelligent guy.You appear to be a very good customer of his. >I'm sure others are disturbed that OFFLIST emails get a public slating ?? For that I am truly mortified and have apologised without reservation and I am happy to do so again here. I apologise for this without reservation. I have a request though. If you are going to suddenly begin bombarding the list with multiple emails of your usual "style" then please make it clear if one of them is offlist. In such circumstances it is sensible to write OFFLIST at the start of it so that bloody silly mistakes like I made are unlikely to happen. That is not an excuse for my error nor for my actions, but accident prevention is a common concept. Once again I cannot apologise enough for replying onlist to an offlist email. It was totally out of order. > I don't need to explain anything to you, or others, many know me on this > list, and I can say that although I am different, I am entrepreneurial and > open, > and maybe you should try and lighten up a bit, and think before you act Thanks for the advice and I'll try to take it on board. I totally agree in that you have no need to explain anything to me. I would prefer you not to, in fact. I see you as being more opportunistic than entrepreneurial but that is possibly splitting hairs and my opinion is of absolutely no consequence to your business activities. In fact in all sincerity I wish you the best of luck with them so long as they have nothing to do with myself (or hopefully Leeds United, but that is another matter). > By christ Rick, its not been easy for me to support you I have thought about the cost-benefits and on balance I have decided that it would be better for me if you personally took the easier path and stopped supporting me (whatever that means). Lets make a clean break of it and I'll do my best to get along without your coaching (and cheerleading) from the touchlines. I'm not suggesting that you turn against whatever it is that you are referring to, only that you cease your visible support, or perhaps you might support silently instead. If this makes your life easier then we will have a win-win situation. Until the last few days I had admittedly been totally unaware of your "support". > as rants like this I got used to, but unfortunatly, LUST is a vehicle > that you are driving and we may need to use, and if this is the level of > your mentality, then we haven't got a hope in hell Contrary to what you are trying to say here you are very well aware that I strove for years to work in the background. In fact it was YOU who desperately wanted blazes of publicity and it was you who FORCED me in front of Sky Sports cameras for the first time, not to mention giving radio stations my phone number and telling them that I had a big announcement to make on air (when there was nothing of the sort). In truth, I much later picked up the Trust baton extremely reluctantly and only then because it was left lying on the floor. Somebody had to pick it up and there was at the time nobody else prepared to do it. Once I was chairman of the Trust (which is really quite recent) than any anonymity was gone and in order to do the job as best I can then regular direct media contact becomes par for the course (if you pardon the expression). If I am now driving the Trust as you say then it is because the Trust very nearly shut down entirely and would not have been there at a time when we may need it, as you also say. That was in fact precisely the thinking of those very few who determined to keep the Trust going and I am on record of saying precisely this in a Trust board meeting. Where were you, then, when there was no publicity to be had ? Where was your concern ? I find it very difficult to accept it as being a coincidence that you have resurfaced precisely when the publicity has become regular and more intense. Why else would you suddenly send a flurry of posts to the list ? As I said before I have no intention of allowing you to piggyback your personal business interests onto the publicity surrounding the desperate plight of our football club. > bloody disgarce I agree that this is a disgrace. Now for the sake of listers please leave it alone. I'm not attempting to deny you a response but I have no time for a prolonged exchange and it appears that nobody is interested anyway which is completely understandable. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
