Response from Thirkers"
On 25 Mar 2010, at 00:07, Sam Gibbard wrote:

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> 
> I guess you can't really debate things like Beckford without having to label 
> yourself in the "support no matter what" category,

   Not at all, he's just one of the team, why pick on him when he's the best 
goalscorer.

> or the "boo hiss" brigade. I am mearly debating outloud what myself, and 
> probably a lot of people, are thinking. What has caused us to so dramatically 
> lose form, belief, passion, and desire as a team

No-one knows this, not even the managemet or it would have been put right, if 
it's possible to be put right?
> 
> Maybe because of all his goals, Beckford is above criticism from some. I 
> don't see looking critically at a player as a bad thing, its what the purpose 
> of debate is all about.

Not at all, but to single out one player is grossly unfair almost spiteful and 
wrong.

> But just look at the hard facts then: since the manu game, Beckford has 
> scored 3 goals in open play in 14 league matches. His goal scoring record is 
> 2 against Colchester (1 a pen), 1 against Brentford, and 2 against Tranmere 
> (1 a pen).

Are you saying he should have turned into a on-man team when all around are off 
form? He isn't John Charles or Pele

> That is a very poor return in this division, and certainly one of the reasons 
> why we find ourselves in such trouble.

Back to the point there should be more than Beckford to be sharing the burden 
and scoring goals. Has the service to him been adequate, I don't think so young 
man. Also the defence have been letting in goals you know.

> Just as the first half of the season, you couldn't find fault with Beckford 
> because of his strike rate, now you have to look at his strike rate and admit 
> its not been good enough.

And the other 15 players have all been carrying their weight, Yes? No? Don't 
know? All except Beckford.
> 
> We kept him at the club for one reason: to score more goals and get us 
> promoted. If he doesn't do that, it was a mistake to keep him,

Maybe Simon Grayson's crystall ball got steamed up, FFS a decision had to be 
made, everyone was pleased at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, always 
has been.

> and I do believe his presence in the dressing room is probably disruptive. 
> Not bothered if people agree with me or not.

Maybe people are rubbishing you because it sounds like utter rubbish that if  
"PROBABLY" he is disruptive,
as you say, it sounds like common sense to me that he wouldn't be in the 
dressing room for 14 games causing disruption, surely to fuck, come on, you 
can't be serious.............................. can you?

> Would be a lot more interesting if people could respond with more qualified 
> statements than just rubbish, what to me, is a valid point. 

Valid points set out in black between your points.
> 
> 
> 
> The whole team is underperforming, and I am not saying its ALL Beckford's 
> fault. I am just saying this is one reason for it, and a big one at that.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but when a post gets no positive response 
doesn't it tell you you something young man. I hope my response to your post 
contains qualified statements you require rather than merely rubbishing your 
post. My honest opinion of your post is that it is absolutely ridiculous. There 
you are young man complete honesty and as I said earlier, everyone is entitled 
to their opinion. Have a nice day, it's pissing down and foggy here in 
Ravenscar.
Thirkers


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