OK, I am confused again now. Just watching Japan vs Cameroon, and player
just given offside without touching the ball. As soon as the ball was
crossed (yes, the guy was offside), the linesman raised his flag, but he
never got even close to touching the ball. Are we saying that this is
wrong, and the linesman should not flag offside until the player
actually plays the ball?
Surely we see this happen all the time? A player is in an offside
position, he has a ball played through to him, but he has not yet
touched the ball, and is flagged offside.
Brian, are you saying that every time this happens, they officials have
got it wrong?
Cheers
Alec
On 14/06/2010 8:12 PM, Alec wrote:
Brian
Thanks for that. So, essentially, unless you receive the ball, you
can't be offside (apart from the nuances you mentioned, which seem
very irregular, marginal cases)?
Cheers
A
On 14/06/2010 7:38 PM, Brian Hamilton wrote:
Alec
Considering I teach referees how to referee, I'm happy to oblige. It
is not an offence to be in an offside position. In the situation you
describe, assistant referees are instructed to 'wait and see' to find
out which player plays the ball.
If the player in the offside position plays the ball, then the flag
should be raised, play stopped and an indirect free kick awarded to
the defending team. If the player who was not in an offside position
plays the ball, then play should continue.
Interfering with play means the player in the offside position
actually playing or touching the ball which has been passed or
touched by a team mate.
The other definitions are firstly, interfering with an opponent which
is preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball
by blocking their line of sight or making a gesture or movement
intended to deceive or distract the opponent. This occurred most
recently when an Everton player was in front of a goalkeeper blocking
his line of sight following a corner and the goal scored was chalked
off.
Secondly there is gaining an advantage which is when the ball
rebounds off a crossbar, post or opponent when the offending player
was in an offside position when the ball was played on to the bar,
post or opponent.
We usually take an hour and use a dvd that took a few thousand pounds
to explain that to newbies :-)
As for Clough's quote, there's been a number of law changes since he
was involved in football, most of them intended to make the game more
attractive and safer to play. He'd have loved the vuvuzelas though ;-)
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Alec
Sent: 14/06/2010 10:09:22
Subject: [LU] Offside rule clarification
Can someone who knows please clarify something for me. If a pass is
played forward to a player (not in an offside position), but in the
penalty box D, a player is moving forward with intent and is only
slightly ahead of the the player receiving the pass, and IS in an
offside position, is it offside? I am sure that the rule is about
"interfering with play", but what does that actually mean? Wasn't it
Clough who said "If he isn't interfering with play, what's he doing on
the pitch?".
Cheers
Alec
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