I've not seen that scenario Alec BUT yes it's possible the assistant referee got trigger happy. Alternatively it may have been that it was obvious that he was the only player likely to get the ball and/or there may have been a possibility of a collision between this attacker and the goalkeeper.
Hope this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: Alec Sent: 14/06/2010 22:19:21 Subject: Re: [LU] Offside rule clarification OK, I am confused again now. Just watching Japan vs Cameroon, and player just given offside without touching the ball. As soon as the ball was crossed (yes, the guy was offside), the linesman raised his flag, but he never got even close to touching the ball. Are we saying that this is wrong, and the linesman should not flag offside until the player actually plays the ball? Surely we see this happen all the time? A player is in an offside position, he has a ball played through to him, but he has not yet touched the ball, and is flagged offside. Brian, are you saying that every time this happens, they officials have got it wrong? Cheers Alec On 14/06/2010 8:12 PM, Alec wrote: > Brian > Thanks for that. So, essentially, unless you receive the ball, you > can't be offside (apart from the nuances you mentioned, which seem > very irregular, marginal cases)? > Cheers > A > > > > On 14/06/2010 7:38 PM, Brian Hamilton wrote: >> Alec >> >> Considering I teach referees how to referee, I'm happy to oblige. It >> is not an offence to be in an offside position. In the situation you >> describe, assistant referees are instructed to 'wait and see' to find >> out which player plays the ball. >> >> If the player in the offside position plays the ball, then the flag >> should be raised, play stopped and an indirect free kick awarded to >> the defending team. If the player who was not in an offside position >> plays the ball, then play should continue. >> >> Interfering with play means the player in the offside position >> actually playing or touching the ball which has been passed or >> touched by a team mate. >> >> The other definitions are firstly, interfering with an opponent which >> is preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball >> by blocking their line of sight or making a gesture or movement >> intended to deceive or distract the opponent. This occurred most >> recently when an Everton player was in front of a goalkeeper blocking >> his line of sight following a corner and the goal scored was chalked >> off. >> >> Secondly there is gaining an advantage which is when the ball >> rebounds off a crossbar, post or opponent when the offending player >> was in an offside position when the ball was played on to the bar, >> post or opponent. >> >> We usually take an hour and use a dvd that took a few thousand pounds >> to explain that to newbies :-) >> >> As for Clough's quote, there's been a number of law changes since he >> was involved in football, most of them intended to make the game more >> attractive and safer to play. He'd have loved the vuvuzelas though ;-) >> >> Brian >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alec >> Sent: 14/06/2010 10:09:22 >> Subject: [LU] Offside rule clarification >> >> >> Can someone who knows please clarify something for me. If a pass is >> played forward to a player (not in an offside position), but in the >> penalty box D, a player is moving forward with intent and is only >> slightly ahead of the the player receiving the pass, and IS in an >> offside position, is it offside? I am sure that the rule is about >> "interfering with play", but what does that actually mean? Wasn't it >> Clough who said "If he isn't interfering with play, what's he doing on >> the pitch?". >> Cheers >> Alec >> >> _______________________________________________ >> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >> administrators accept no liability for the personal views and >> opinions of contributors. >> Leedslist mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it >> sails away >> >> >> _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it sails away
