Hello Roger, It's good to know the legacy's still interested in the manual market on both the large and the small end. Yet, as I tell me friends on Wall Street, in the long run the market may correct itself, but God has put me on earth only for the short run, and He expects me to tend to my family and prepare my kids to do the same for theirs.
There are a lot of woodworkers who are trying to turn legs with ancient versions of the craftsmen/trend router lathe, and some are buying them for as much as $200 on ebay. On the other hand, I have seen Legacy 900s go on and off of ebay for less than $600. I would suspect that the market would bear a Revo-class machine that could retail for between $300 and $400. Now I suspect that the profit margin on that machine was not enough to make it worth Legacy's while. I understand that, and I am not an advocate of working for free. Not a good business model. But if Legacy were to sell the carriage assembly and rails as parts, someone like Tim or Bill could put together a Kit Plan based on legacy parts that are used for the 900s and 1200s. Someone like C.A.G. could make the monster he dreams about. And all of this would redound to the benefit of Legacy who would be supplying the parts and thereby dropping the cost of their own manual machines. Believe me, I'm not critic of Legacy. I own both a manual and a cnc and would buy both again! I'm simply suggesting that they spur growth in the manual market by allowing their entry level base of users to grow. To do this, they don't need to create a new product, they only need to taking advantage of the ingenuity of some of their long-standing users. Begat On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:56 AM, ITwoodwork <rhp...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi guys > Let me just correct one small item, Legacy are not out of the large or > small ornamental mill market. They have had to do what any sane > business person would do in a business down turn, they have looked at > their market and consolidated the product range. The fact is > consumers are not spending their money, or put another way the > hobbyists wifes have taken control of the purse strings. So Legacy are > putting the effort into CNC but when the consumer market returns they > will have offerings but in the meantime you can still order Model > 900s, they just are not available off the shelf. > > The UK market needs the Model 900 and even the REVO but I have to make > do just selling Model 900s and second hand models but believe me Andy > has not given up on manual machines. He and I talk about the manual > way forward at least once a week, if not more. > > So here is a little job for you, tell me what the specification AND > REALISTIC price should be for an entry level machine! > Regards > Roger > > On Dec 5, 11:24 am, begatbrown <darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > Other than needing to acquire a longer lead screw, what is there > > preventing someone from using two 900s to make a 8 foot system? I > > believe the carriage would still be able to ride through from one > > frame to the other. Clearly one would have to place both systems on a > > common platform and perhaps connect them to make sure the two stable. > > > > I have few mechanical skills, but to me seems away around looker for > > longer extrusions. I also think the cost of the alum rails are > > roughly $25 a foot thru legacy. If that's true four 9ft rails would > > cost approx $900. That's a lot if you don't mean use the system to > > make money, but not much of an investment if you mean to make columns > > for the market. > > > > Moreover, since Legacy decided to withdraw from both the small and the > > large ornamental mill market, they have left the door open for > > innovation. > > > > Begat > > > > On Dec 5, 4:04 am, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone > > > Shoot Tim I was going to tell everyone about Dependable... > > > Finding the Acme screw is not hard, but over 8' the screw starts > becoming to flexible and will need some sort of bridge to hold the screw > from bending. > > > Now the Alum. I still have not found a source.But I know it has to be > out there! > > > Making a LARGE Legacy type of machine has been a dream of mine for > years. (Dreams are for chasing, not catching,its the Drive that keeps you > going.) :-) I have no idea on if I will ever be able to make my machine, > but it hasn't stopped me for trying to find the sources to get the > materials to make the Dream come true. > > > The 8/20 system is close to the Alum rail, its not the same, but its > easy to find and buy.(http://8020.net/) > > > > > Just my two cents worth of it today. > > > I have to get to work now. > > > have a great day all. > > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Tim Krause > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:47 AM > > > Subject: Re: Re: Extruded rail material source > > > > > http://dependableacme.com/class.htm#screwisone source of 5/8-4tpi > acme thread in long lengths. I don't know if they do international > shipping or not. > > > > > -Tim > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Bulkeley > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:27 PM > > > Subject: Re: Re: Extruded rail material source > > > > > interesting, I am very interested in the longer acme thread is it > 1/4 pitch 4TPI like the legacy one? please can you give me the web sight of > that > > > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: carstenstig...@verizon.net > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: Re: Extruded rail material source > > > > > Bill, If memory serves me right the tekno slot will take a 3/4 > wide 1/4 thick piece of bar stock which we used to drill out to either > 1/4-20 or 5/16-18 for standard bolts. I do believe that when you download > the modutek catalogue is shows the bolt head also sliding in the slot. I > have been moving 8 or so 10 foot pieces of the one slot stuff for years and > plan on making the panel saw from some plans I have and also looking into > longer acme screw material for a longer machine that is about 2 feet longer > than the 900 I use now. I have been looking into making a rail extension > that will just bolt up. I am looking at moving the carriage onto rollers > and making an arm tht bolts to the lead screw bracket that would continue > the drive for a longer distance down the rail. Nothing further in planning > than the drawing board at this time. > > > > > As a note I am working on a few custom candle holders that are > about 4 feet high with a hollow spiral in them made from some 4" stock I > came into. Pics to follow soon if I can get them finished before the new > year. > > > > > In His Service > > > > > Carl Stigers > > > > > WWW.treetothee.com > > > > > On 12/04/11, Bill Bulkeley<bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > thank you Carl when you say similar did they have anything with > the wide groove in it the same that is in the legacy rails that's the hard > one to find the wide groove > > > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: carsten stigers > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:51 PM > > > Subject: Extruded rail material source > > > > > Greetings everyone. If one is looking for extruded aluminum to > make rails go tohttp://www.tekno.com/html/downloads_.html. I used to > work at a conveyor company and we used very similiar extrusion. As far as > the nuts and bolts you can get those a lot cheaper from a local supplier > like Fastenal. the plans from one of the mags for a panel saw used this > stuff. > > > > > Carl Stigers > > > > > > yes it does look like a little bit of legacy rail in there I > wonder if he > > > > got it from legacy if not id love to know were wouldn't it > be great to be > > > > able to buy rail for our mills elsewhere > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > > > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4656 - Release > Date: 12/04/11 > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > > > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4656 - Release Date: > 12/04/11 > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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