That’s pretty much what mine was like before I welded it
Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2019 2:09 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fine Pitches Hello Everyone. here is a link to what I did years ago. https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm Curtis George, Royal Oak Mi. <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1_files/Extending_brackets.jpg> The legacy has six rails but really only needs two to run the carriage. I bought some uni-strut Model P3301 that is a dead ringer for the Legacy rail system. Only the uni-strut dose not have the small channel. What I did was replace the two inside rails and the bottom rails with uni-strut and added the old rails to the upper and outer edge. That is the outside rails of the machine. You will need to make some brackets, I used four 1/8"x1.5"x 12" flat stock and drilled 8 holes. After drilling I wielded nuts over the holes so machine screws could run through them. I then made four 12"x 1/4" brackets to fit inside the aluminum rail. Then I made 4 more brackets to fit the underside of the outer rail 1.5x 3" flat stock. I drilled two holes, and secured them using legacy's mounting brackets and screws. NOTE the brackets go on the bottom and inside on the aluminum rails. The rails the carriage rides on. Now the assembly, connect the bottom brackets on Legacy, remaining outside rails, then slide in the small flat stock and brackets (with nuts wielded facing inside) screw down bracket to inner side of the rails. I needed to connect two set to make the 15' I needed. (each rail is 5' long). You can make new support brackets or use Legacy's old support brackets (that's what I did) I made my Legacy 15 feet long to complete <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm> a job( which I needed 14 feet). Latter I rebuilt my legacy back to 60" ("Well I needed to just keep some extra length.) Mine was originally 48") The only problem with this increasing of size was the drive rod needs to be either disconnected or a new rod must be gotten. ( I disconnected it) because it wasn't needed for the job I was doing. I made stop blocks and used them the stop the travel <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm> where necessary. My kids turned the wood and I controlled the carriage and router. IT WORKED WELL for that job. but keeping an 8 year olds attaché is rather difficult. " KEEP IT TURNING!" " DAD IM TIRED <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm> !" "Just keep it going we are almost done!" <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1_files/Unistrut_Legacy_rail.jpg> <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1_files/Legacy_extended.jpg> looked up Uni-strut of the internet, the headquarters is. Unistrut Headquarters 35660 Clinton Street, Wayne, MI 48184 Tel: 800 521-7730, Fax: 734-721-4106 Unistrut Illinois 1140 W. Thorndale Ave. Itasca, IL 60143 Contact: Sue Dial, Rosie Grasso Phone: 630-787-6062, 630-787-6057 Fax: 800-742-0223 Website: http://www.unistrutconstruction.com <http://www.unistrutconstruction.com/> I believe they can help you. p3301 (1- 5/8"x 1 -3/4") I believe it was 12 gauge. page 34 in there catalog. Send mail to <mailto:i...@ornamentalmills.com> i...@ornamentalmills.com with questions or comments about this web site. Last modified: February 19, 2008 On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:56:49 PM EDT, Tim <artmarb...@comcast.net <mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net> > wrote: I used a flat piece on the inside of the rail, a l shaped underneath to join the rails temporarily. Pretty close to how Roger did his. It saves welding and can be undone. I’ll try to find the messages in the next few days. From: Tim Ziegler <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:11 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fine Pitches Thanks Bill. Lots of guys in this area that specialize in welding so will have to look into it. Other wise just getting a couple short rails I would couple together from the bottom some how too. Then they can be removed. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:02 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Before my house fire took everything I tig welded 2 pieces of rail together to extend my 900 mill before that they were bolted together with a metal plate I never got round to posting it on the group a day or 2 after is when I lost it all. I just tig welded every where except where things slid it seemed to work quite well. To weld it I clamped the pieces to a flat metal plate to keep everything flat and strait then tacked it together then finished the welds. So if you can find a good welder company it is possible. I think I did post the bolted with metal plate to the group it would be somewhere in the archives, the trouble with that of course if finding it. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2019 7:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fine Pitches One of the more fun projects was combining two 900s. The man's name was Begat. He's no longer a member unfortunately, but I'm pretty sure it was documented here. I could not find it doing a quick search. No, I don't have a list of stuff I've offered in the past and for the moment I don't have anything for sale, so that's easy😀! There are a couple techniques you can do to extend your mill. Curt did one and Roger (CCM) did one. The short version is you can do 1/2 of the work and extended one end of the work out the end. Then you flip the work and finish it. 80/20 can be used for the inner rails with a small modification. Any way, it's in the old messages. A long time ago I was collecting and editing the great posts and keeping them on ornamentalmills.com <http://ornamentalmills.com> . Health again stopped that in 2013, but I'm actively working on that along with over 1000 images to post, 400 of them never seen before. Tim On Sep 4, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: thanks Tim. Yes I agree I have bought several items from Legacy direct and would not go against good old common respect. so in order to see the pix we would have to go through all the posts then? I would like to see the list of parts you have and do offer? I really wish rail extensions we available. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:38 AM artmarbles < artmarb...@comcast.net <mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net> > wrote: I don't really have any pictures. My setup was like Bill's. The only difference is I made my sprockets from .120 laser cut steel. I've fabricated a pretty wide range of items for the late model machines, but mostly designed for the model 900. Tools for leveling the bed easily, two inch taller legs to max out the turning radius to those off the 1800, custom gears, a quick change direction changer, a reciprocator, custom index plates and the latest is a new headstock and tail stock for the revo. I don't have a catalog, but all items have been shown I. The group at one point. Health problems cut me down in 2012 so I've had to stop building custom items. I'm working my way back to being able to offer legacy components. One thing I've never done is making anything that legacy makes. We need to support the mothership for as long as they help support us. I would love to see all the new people show what they are doing than seeing new messages from the core guys like me, Mike, curt, and bill etc. Thanks for the questions and comments. Tim Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > Date: 9/4/19 3:48 AM (GMT-08:00) To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fine Pitches Tim where you down loading a pic or attaching the link to it? I've heard your quite an innovator. The others have spoken highly of you. I think for you guys that have been at this a while could post a pic or so a week of different innovations you've done would be a great inspiration and get us LOM newbies as well as the seasoned ones like your self motivated to try new areas. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:45 AM Tim < artmarb...@comcast.net <mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net> > wrote: I don't know if I ever showed what I did with #25 chain. I made my own sprockets and keyed them to the drive spindle and lead screw. It worked great. Lots of wisdom in the old post for sure. We were all younger and more ambitious! Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/80bd9c82-2f94-4170-8e70-dd57622da519%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . 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