thanks Curtis.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:09 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> here is a link to what I did years ago.
> https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm
>
> *Curtis George, Royal Oak Mi.*
>
> The legacy has six rails but really only needs two to run the carriage.  I
> bought some uni-strut
> Model P3301 that is a dead ringer for the Legacy rail system.  Only the
> uni-strut dose not have the small channel.  What I did was replace the two
> inside rails and the bottom rails with uni-strut and added the old rails to
> the upper and outer edge. That is the outside rails of the machine.  You
> will need to make some brackets, I used four 1/8"x1.5"x 12" flat stock and
> drilled  8 holes.  After drilling I wielded nuts over the holes so machine
> screws could run through them.  I then made four 12"x 1/4" brackets to fit
> inside the aluminum rail.  Then I made 4 more brackets to fit the underside
> of the outer rail 1.5x 3" flat stock.  I drilled two holes, and secured
> them using legacy's mounting brackets and screws.
>
> NOTE the brackets go on the bottom and inside on the aluminum rails.  The
> rails the carriage rides on.  Now the assembly, connect the bottom brackets
> on Legacy, remaining outside rails, then slide in the small flat stock and
> brackets (with nuts wielded facing inside) screw down bracket to inner side
> of the rails. I needed to connect two set to make the 15' I needed. (each
> rail is 5' long).  You can make new support brackets or use Legacy's old
> support brackets (that's what I did) I made my Legacy 15 feet long to
> complete <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm#> a
> job( which I needed 14 feet).   Latter I rebuilt my legacy back to 60"
> ("Well I needed to just keep some extra length.)  Mine was originally 48")
> The only problem with this increasing of size was the drive rod needs to be
> either disconnected or a new rod must be gotten. ( I disconnected it)
> because it wasn't needed for the job I was doing. I made stop blocks and
> used them the stop the travel
> <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm#> where
> necessary. My kids turned the wood and I controlled the carriage and
> router. IT WORKED WELL for that job. but keeping an 8 year olds attaché is
> rather difficult.  " KEEP IT TURNING!"  " DAD IM TIRED
> <https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/BedExtension_1.htm#>!"  "Just
> keep it going we are
> almost done!"
>
> looked up Uni-strut of the internet, the headquarters is.
>
>       Unistrut Headquarters
>       35660 Clinton Street, Wayne, MI 48184
>       Tel: 800 521-7730, Fax: 734-721-4106
>                   Unistrut Illinois
>                   1140 W. Thorndale Ave.
>                   Itasca, IL 60143
>                   Contact: Sue Dial, Rosie Grasso
>                   Phone: 630-787-6062, 630-787-6057
>                   Fax: 800-742-0223
>                   Website: http://www.unistrutconstruction.com
>
>                   I believe they can help you.  p3301  (1- 5/8"x 1 -3/4") I
> believe it was 12 gauge. page 34 in there catalog.
> Send mail to i...@ornamentalmills.com  <i...@ornamentalmills.com>with
> questions or comments about this web site.
> Last modified: February 19, 2008
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 11:56:49 PM EDT, Tim <
> artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I used a flat piece on the inside of the rail, a l shaped underneath to
> join the rails temporarily.  Pretty close to how Roger did his.  It saves
> welding and can be undone.  I’ll try to find the messages in the next few
> days.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:11 PM
> *To: *legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: Fine Pitches
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill.
>
> Lots of guys in this area that specialize in welding so will have to look
> into it.
>
> Other wise just getting a couple short rails I would couple together from
> the bottom some how too.
>
> Then they can be removed.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:02 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Before my house fire took everything I tig welded 2 pieces of rail
> together to extend my 900 mill before that they were bolted together with a
> metal plate I never got round to posting it on the group a day or 2 after
> is when I lost it all. I just tig welded every where except where things
> slid it seemed to work quite well. To weld it I clamped the pieces to a
> flat metal plate to keep everything flat and strait then tacked it together
> then finished the welds.
>
> So if you can find a good welder company it is possible. I think I did
> post the bolted with metal plate to the group it would be somewhere in the
> archives, the trouble with that of course if finding it.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Krause
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2019 7:16 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Fine Pitches
>
>
>
> One of the more fun projects was combining two 900s. The man's name was
> Begat. He's no longer a member unfortunately,  but I'm pretty sure it was
> documented here. I could not find it doing a quick search.
>
> No, I don't have a list of stuff I've offered in the past and for the
> moment I don't have anything for sale, so that's easy😀!
>
> There are a couple techniques you can do to extend your mill. Curt did one
> and Roger (CCM) did one. The short version is you can do 1/2 of the work
> and extended one end of the work out the end. Then you flip the work and
> finish it. 80/20 can  be used for the inner rails with a small
> modification. Any way, it's in the old messages.
>
> A long time ago I was collecting and editing the great posts and keeping
> them on ornamentalmills.com.  Health again stopped that in 2013, but I'm
> actively working on that along with over 1000 images to post, 400 of them
> never seen before.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thanks Tim.
>
> Yes I agree I have bought several items from Legacy direct and would not
> go against good old common respect.
>
> so in order to see the pix we would have to go through all the posts then?
>
> I would like to see the list of parts you have and do offer?
>
> I really wish rail extensions we available.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:38 AM artmarbles < artmarb...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> I don't really have any pictures. My setup was like Bill's. The only
> difference is I made my sprockets from .120 laser cut steel.
>
>
>
> I've fabricated a pretty wide range of items for the late model machines,
> but mostly designed for the model 900. Tools for leveling the bed easily,
> two inch taller legs to max out the turning radius to those off the 1800,
> custom gears, a quick change direction changer, a reciprocator, custom
> index plates and the latest is a new headstock and tail stock for the
> revo.  I don't have a catalog, but all items have been shown I. The group
> at one point.
>
>
>
> Health problems cut me down in 2012 so I've had to stop building custom
> items. I'm working my way back to being able to offer legacy components.
>
>
>
> One thing I've never done is making anything that legacy makes. We need to
> support the mothership for as long as they help support us.
>
>
>
> I would love to see all the new people show what they are doing than
> seeing new messages from the core guys like me, Mike, curt, and bill etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the questions and comments.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Tim Ziegler < timjzieg...@gmail.com>
>
> Date: 9/4/19 3:48 AM (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Fine Pitches
>
>
>
> Tim where you down loading a pic or attaching the link to it?
>
> I've heard your quite an innovator. The others have spoken highly of you.
>
> I think for you guys that have been at this a while could post a pic or so
> a week
>
> of different innovations you've done would be a great inspiration and get
> us
>
> LOM newbies as well as the seasoned ones like your self motivated to try
>
> new areas.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:45 AM Tim < artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I don't know if I ever showed what I did with #25 chain.  I made my own
> sprockets and keyed them to the drive spindle and lead screw. It worked
> great.  Lots of wisdom in the old post for sure. We were all younger and
> more ambitious!
>
> Tim
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