Those look like a good solution and I would jump on it in a heartbeat if 
only that head and ring assembly would clear. One other issue is that the 
arm is not secured tightly to the axis so there is slight lateral movement 
that is eliminated when my screw tightens.  Yes, the fit on the flats is 
almost interference fit, but that doesn't eliminate lateral movement that 
can disengage a loose pin. This screw pin is only 10-24 x 7/16" long OA and 
it barely clears.  Those spring loaded things are monstrous by comparison. 
If I were willing to modify original equipment permanently, things could be 
different.  I could make another spindle...

Re: margins.  I'm using the default margins on desktop, so I have assumed 
automatic margin controls on other devices.  If not, how does one limit the 
margins on desktop?  For this post I shrank the window to 1/3 width, but I 
doubt it will make a difference.

DanK

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 10:55:55 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Dan,
>
> Here is what Curt showed me to use. They work excellent but you need space 
> to make it work.
> Way faster than screws or cap screws. 
> When you respond or email can you keep it narrower? It's tough to read 
> when you have to scroll left to right or vise versa. 
> Anyway check out these and let me know what you think. 
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Spring-Plunger-Stainless-Non-Locking-Hand-Retractable/dp/B09G37QQ27/ref=asc_df_B09G37QQ27/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=569762016156&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16569521696965764528&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9020090&hvtargid=pla-1652281026128&th=1
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:37 PM Dan Krager <cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill, I put the screw in from the outside to be able to use a screw 
>> driver better.  I hate slotted screws, so it will be replaced by a flat 
>> head hex machine screw.  I couldn't think of how to hold this tiny thing, 
>> so I threaded the hole in the axis arm and pass the screw through the SIG 
>> to thread into the arm. This keeps the clearance acceptable and the 
>> connection tight.  I've just considered the case of moving the carriage on 
>> a straight, non-spiral cut and how to hold the index with the axis.  With 
>> the gears disengaged, the original indexing pin can be used as normal as 
>> long as the arm remains pinned to the SiG.  It's in the middle of some test 
>> runs and the first three passes of 8 worked just fine. It really doesn't 
>> take much time to move the pin (screw) to the next index, but it is not as 
>> fast as a tapered pin like the original. It will get better with the socket 
>> head screw.  I'm open to ideas.
>>
>> I have completed the spoon bowl and put the first coat of oil on it 
>> today.  It's a looker alright. A couple more coats and a polish (wax) will 
>> be the makeup for a photo in a couple days.
>> The test run is trying to salvage the little spoon spiral that I buggered 
>> up using the "old" methods. 
>>
>> DanK
>>
>> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 8:27:23 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:
>>
>>> Dan I thought you might have put your indexing screw in from the back 
>>> instead of from the front, having a point on the end of the screw might 
>>> help speed up your indexing time . I can see how your idea works without a 
>>> video, it is a different way of indexing the starts on a spiral the idea is 
>>> very similar to curts design I can see how it will make indexing easier 
>>>  and more simple for you as curts one did for him.
>>>
>>> I have done the gauge block method for so long and so many times now I 
>>> find it more easy for me, but in the end what ever method each user uses as 
>>> long as they are comfortable with it is the important thing  as curt says 
>>> there a many ways to skin a cat and when the end result is a perfect spiral 
>>> each way is all good
>>>
>>> Keep those good inventive ideas coming Dan I love legacy mill mods.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 July 2022 8:50 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: First LOM twist
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I did post a link to a very short video 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/15pIQani7juLUeyE8zVCWRzfkDm47Uou3/view?usp=sharing>
>>>  
>>> about the index arm movement.  I'm not set up for video making.  The 
>>> pictures tell the whole story pretty well, but I'll see about getting 
>>> enough to show a couple starts.  I'm salvaging the buggered up small spoon 
>>> so that might be a good candidate tomorrow.
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 1:16:10 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dan,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thats super cool when a plan comes together. Can you do a short video 
>>> and post it as well so we
>>>
>>> can all get a little better hand on how it all works and come together?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 10:36 AM Dan Krager <cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The final piece has been made and installed.  I am thrilled that 
>>> FINALLY, one of my ideas has worked out!  And it does work reliably.  The 
>>> weak part of the design is the time consumed to change the pin because it 
>>> threads into the bar on the other side of the SIG, though it is not bad. I 
>>> used a slotted machine screw because that is what I had with a taper, but I 
>>> am planning to replace that with a flat head socket screw for easier wrench 
>>> work and easier to insert into next hole.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 12:02:51 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dan
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Very nice work On your spoon!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I am very happy for you.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work, 
>>>
>>> I too, am looking
>>>
>>> forward to seeing your bowl.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 05:03:23 PM EDT, bulk...@mmnet.com.au <
>>> bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On the contrary its very much to look at very nice work Dan cant wait to 
>>> see the bowl
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 July 2022 2:49 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* First LOM twist
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi guys.  I'm still riding a high of successfully cutting my first 
>>> involute spur gear for one of my machines.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> So, riding that high, I decided to do some wood turnng. Utensils came to 
>>> mind, so very soon a couple of spoon blanks were on the LOM for another 
>>> first...the first twists cut on the REVO.  Used a straight 1/2" up cut 
>>> spiral bit against the side. Six starts.  Not much to look at for design 
>>> and the handle is much to large, but the pear wood cuts beautifully.  
>>> Another smaller spoon is on its way.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Now to carve the bowl.  This stuff is HARD.  
>>>
>>> DanK
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