Not false information, Paul, just complex. They are part of the family.
Just not in the same relationship. If someone cares enough about the
family to do in depth research, they'll find out the correct information.
If not, nothing lost. What's the worst thing people can do to the memory of
relatives about whom they want to know only their names? Baptize them into
the Mormon Church?
But if you're VERY worried about it, you can always put "foster child" in
place of birth in the files you send the LGS. I put "Northampton State
Hospital" for place of death for my two great grandmothers who did die
there, in the files I sent LDS, to make relatives who research there aware
of the family history of manic depression, which concealed genetic disease
is the one genealogical detail it is most important that our relatives know.
One of their fathers died in "Died of Alcoholism". If something's important
enough, you can always find a way to communicate!
As an alternative, you could add the children's biological parents. That
will force people to realize they aren't the biological children of the
people who raised them. You can even add their biological parents if you
don't know their names. My own ancestry has a number of unknown parents
for people who were siblings whose parents are unknown. Do you have any
clue, like the children's surnames? One warning; if they are foster
children, you are more likely to know the surname of the mother than of the
father, and you only need to add one biological parent for researchers to
realize the parents who raised them are not biological parents.
But I'm still kind of smelling a lack of willingness on your part to view
those children as potentially family, even in families not your own. Why
are you so worried about how OTHER people describe their families?
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul C. Abell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children
The problem from where we sit is that it depends on if you want your
genealogy to have any integrity. You list foster children as children and
publish it and others then download it without checking sources (if you
had
any) and consider it gospel. There is already too much "mis-information"
on
the internet about what true genealogy really is. When using genealogy,
the
integrity is either there or not.
Legacy allows you many options for listing foster children without them
actually
showing up as children. Foster and Step are not the same thing. My
brother
has two stepchildren that are family in every other sense of the word. Do
I
have them listed as his children. Absolutely not, because they are not
his
children. They are listed as her children by her first marriage. It
doesn't matter how one feels about people that are not related. They
still
are never related. I, for one, choose to include in my notes that these
two
children, now grown, were the only people outside my brothers and I that
were ever included in my parents' wills. My parents loved them enough to
name them but never named another grandchild. So....I for one, choose not
to pollute my database with false information.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dora
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Foster children
I'm writing for my descendants, not NEHGS. So I do what makes sense to
me.
Where is this emphasis on some sort of rigid rules from God knows where
that
make no sense coming from? "Violated rule number two twice"? Who's
counting, and who's goinna slap mah wrists! If people want to be rule
bound, why do they need to try to coerce other people to participate in
this
anxiety disorder? What difference does it make if Laura does her
genealogy
the same way Bill Houdek does?
But then, someone on one list explained to me that some people doing
family
genealogy projects follow some bizarre outmoded rules that NEHGS and TAG
and
another group apply to what they will publish in their journals. I don't
give two hoots what NEHGS and TAG allow in their journals. I publish my
findings on the web, and discuss problems on the genealogy lists, and will
never submit anything to NEHGS and TAG, and it sounds like they might not
publish it if I did.
But with that said, noone can tell Laura how to list those foster
children.
If the couple raised them and then they were listed as contacts by the
funeral home, I would think they were family, but maybe Laura has reasons
not to list them that way. And I don't know for what purpose Laura is
doing her genealogy.
Now, I'm off this discussion, before I get mad, and think of how to point
out to Bill and others that there is not some all powerful body we all
swore
to obey or something to tell us all how to do live, worship, or do
genealogy. My 17th and 18th century ancestors came to this country
specifically to do all that their own way in peace - ARGGH!
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
Cc: "Arnold Sprague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Foster children
I agree with Arnold. Is time this is discussed and only blood line
individuals should be included in the "family". That said. have violated
#
2 twice. Think what it all boils down to is what the individual doing the
recording wants out of the Legacy record. In that context, would not like
to see some sort of hard & fast rule as that will satisfy only the person
laying down the rule.
Bill Houdek
---- Arnold Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think that once we open the *genealogical* door to
non-blood line children, the difference between adopted, foster, and
anything else is merely a word game.
IMPHO*, there should be two categories for children: blood
line (DNA) and other.
IMHHO*, we should only list children of the parents' blood
lines (DNA). Others should go into notes
My comments are meant to further the discussion as to what
constitutes *genealogy*. It is not meant to start a fire fight.
Arnold
* In My Polite Humble Opinion
** In My Honest Humble Opinion
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