I think almost everyone is missing what the problem is that Carol is reporting. She understands what the double-S (officially "section mark" -- see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_mark) is for, but according to her most recent post, the problem is the AKAs are being associated with the *wrong individuals* after she changed people's RINs.
Thus, if RIN#1 was formerly Jane Smith a.k.a. Jane Smythe and RIN#2 was Frank Jones a.k.a. Fred Jones; after Carol changed the RINs and swapped their numbers, now RIN#1 is Frank Jones a.k.a. Jane Smythe, and RIN#2 is Jane Smith a.k.a. Fred Jones. So the base problem is that her AKAs did not get reassigned properly and are now all associated with the wrong people. Thus it sounds like the only fix (until this bug (?) is fixed) is to go through every individual with an AKA, manually delete them, and reassign them to the correct individual. This is obviously not an ideal solution since it will require a lot of manual labor and re-adding sources and so forth... Because I've never changed RINs after they are assigned I can't verify if this actually is a bug, but it sounds like something to look out for if you do consider a mass-reassignment of identification numbers. (And as always before doing something major like this, make sure your backup is up-to-date!) Cheers, Steve Voght Seattle, WA On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "double S" is only a computer generated 'warning' that this is a person > who has an AKA in use, and you currently have the 'show AKAs' turned on. > Changing the RIN will only cause the mark to carry itself to the new RIN. > Rich in LA CA > > --- On Sun, 9/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Problem Changing RINs >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 10:33 AM >> Hi Pauline, >> >> I understand about the "double S" for the name of >> married women, but this is >> not the problem. What happened is that it kept the married >> names of women >> RIN, and now they become associated with the person with >> the changed RIN. >> >> This is probably an indexing problem when changing RIN? >> That is when you >> change the RIN to a number of a female with a married name >> RIN. The RIN is >> not changed with the "double S" >> >> Hope this explanation makes sense? >> >> Carol >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Pauline B. >> Cramer >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:51 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem Changing RINs >> >> Carol, >> >> If you click on the Index tab, all you have to do to get >> rid of the >> "RINs with the "double S" prefix is to go to >> the Options button in the >> upper right corner and click to turn off the "Include >> Married Names" >> options. What you are calling bogus names should be the >> married names of >> women. This is not a bug, it is a feature. >> >> This feature enables you to find a married woman by looking >> for her >> married surname or maiden name, whichever you remember. It >> is especially >> useful for women who have been married two or three times. >> It can help >> you avoid entering two or three records for the same >> individual. The >> names with the squiggle in front of the names are the AKAs. >> You can get >> rid of them from the Index by unchecking the "Include >> Alternate Names" >> in Options. >> >> All the names that come up associated with one single >> unique RIN number >> should be the preferred name for that individual or else >> that >> individual's married name or alternate name for that >> individual. >> >> If that is not the case, then, when you started changing >> RINs, you may >> have inadvertently merged records for two individuals >> without meaning to >> do so. You may have manually entered RIN numbers that were >> already used >> for other existing individuals in the Legacy family file. >> What you are >> calling a bogus name may be the name for another individual >> that was >> already in the database. >> >> Pauline >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > The real problem is how do I remove those with the >> same RIN as the >> > desired person??? The ones which are bogus have a >> "double S" prefix. >> > >> > I am looking for help on fixing the problem. Maybe the >> Legacy support >> > team will take a look at my problem. It appears to be >> a program bug?? >> > >> > Carol >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> *On Behalf Of >> > *Johnny V >> > *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2008 5:34 PM >> > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Problem Changing RINs >> > >> > Carol, >> > >> > It puzzles me why Legacy even has this feature. Since >> Legacy is a >> > relational database, an RIN is nothing more than a >> *_R_*ecord >> > *_I_*dentification *_N_*umber instructing the database >> where to find a >> > specific record and what records to relate it to. >> Changing an RIN is >> > not something that should be done - period. >> > >> > Just my 2ยข worth >> > >> > John Valencic >> > >> > On 9/26/08, *ronald ferguson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Carol, >> > >> > I do not know what you mean by "the pedigree >> numbering system", >> > something I'm afraid I've never heard of. RINs >> are allocated in the >> > order in which individuals are added to the database >> and I have mine >> > set not to reuse epmty numbers. I have never changed a >> RIN and have no >> > intention of doing so since the RINs are used as the >> file names for >> > pedigree web pages which happen to be my main >> interest. In any event >> > any order which might be set will soon be messed up as >> other names are >> > added. >> > >> > I think what you mean by muddled/duplicate numbers in >> the Index View >> > is because you have it set to show alternate names and >> alternate >> > married names, these have the same RIN as the main >> name for the >> > individual, as they are one and the same persons. >> > >> > >> > Ron Ferguson >> > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs >> > http://www.fergys.co.uk >> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> >> > > Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem Changing RINs >> > > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:35:54 -0700 >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Just started to change the RINs so they match the >> pedigree numbering >> > system, >> > > and found a problem getting other individuals >> with the changed number. >> > > Several persons who RIN was change has other >> names with the same >> > number as >> > > seen in the Index view. When you high-light the >> bogus name and try to >> > view >> > > its Family view, it doesn't go to that name >> but the person I assigned to >> > > number. The bogus name starts with a double S >> symbol, but lists the >> vital >> > > data of the person I assigned the number to. >> > > >> > > I tried all the file maintenance, but didn't >> fix the problem. I have the >> > > latest version of the program, and use XP. >> > > >> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> > > >> > > Carol >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ >> > Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live >> Messenger >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ >> > >> > >> > Legacy User Group guidelines: >> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> > Archived messages: >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> > Online technical support: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> > To unsubscribe: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Talk to you soon >> > Johnny V >> > >> > Legacy User Group guidelines: >> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> > Archived messages: >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> > Online technical support: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> > To unsubscribe: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > >> > Legacy User Group guidelines: >> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> > Archived messages: >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> > Online technical support: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> > To unsubscribe: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
