Richard: I have to disagree somewhat. The Nevada Marriage Index at Ancestry.com is strictly an index and does not contain images. Therefore, it is not *exactly* like the US census records. When you cite digital images, it is different than citing an index or transcription. But I do cite Ancestry.com in both citations so that I know where to go back to find the digital image or index entry. And I would also say that Ancestry.com is the originator of that particular database, though Nevada is the originator of the information that is part of the database. Ancestry formatted that information to suit its customers' needs and physically created the database, so I think it would be incorrect to give Nevada credit for the database.
All: I don't understand how any can say that they've seen the original State of Nevada index at Ancestry.com. As the OP said, Ancestry took two indexes and created one database with both of them. Also, the entries I've researched in that particular index at Ancestry.com do not have images of the original two indexes. It is strictly a transcription. Are there other entries that have images of the index? In that case, then you would be citing a digital image of an index and you could put the State of Nevada or Clark County as the author of the index. It would look something like this: Clark County, Nevada, Marriage Index Book 210: 25, Smith-Jones; Marriage Bureau, Las Vegas; digital image, "Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005," Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 1 Aug 2008). If you were just looking at the index with no image on Ancestry.com, then you would do something more like this: "Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005," database, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com/search : accessed 12 Oct 2008), entry for Victor L, King and Betty J. Hackett, 10 Feb 1998; citing Nevada Marriage Book 210: C923786, no. 71867. Jennifer ----- Original Message ---- From: Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:00:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question So, Bill, when you look at a book at the library, do you cite the library as the source? I have looked at the original State of Nevada Index via Ancestry.com. Why would I need to go to Carson City to cite the State of Nevada Index? Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question Elizabeth, Does this get back to the argument that 'my source' is where I found the information, rather than where the information was, as far as can be deduced from the information available to me, originally created. It may be a personal preference, but I maintain my source is where I got the information. As far as I'm concerned, anything else is hearsay (albeit written) until I've checked it out. In the case below, It is highly probable that the data was created by Nevada, but until the records at Nevada are checked out, it is not certain that such data has been transferred accurately. Perhaps this could be covered by the surety level, but I'm would not be happy with that. We may have to agree to differ on this one. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Richardson Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question True, this is an index only, not the marriage record documents themselves. The original image of the index is at Ancestry, and was not created by Ancestry. The index was created by the State of Nevada and Clark County. Rich is correct, Ancestry is NOT the originator of the index, it is the repository. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question Rich, Sorry, I disagree. Whilst I agree that it is unlikely, it is just possible that Ancestry.com has changed the record created by Nevada. The source, at this juncture, has to be what has been viewed - Ancestry.com - with mention of the sources they say they are relying on, until such time as the 'original' source is personally checked. Isn't Genealogy fun!! Bill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question I disagree. Ancestry.com is not the originator of the database, Nevada is that. Ancestor owns the photocopies and/or transcriptions that it created from the data. It charges for access to that file. But you can go to Nevada and make your own copies (plane fare and hotel room not included). Use the example for US census records, changing the obvious differences. Rich in LA CA --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Kay Fordham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Kay Fordham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Question > To: "Legacy User Group" <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 5:08 PM Using Legacy 7 Deluxe > 7.0.0.55 Build > > Tried the new Source Writer for the first time today and love it. I > have a question about it relating to E. Shown-Mills, "Evidence > Explained." I'm citing an Ancestry.com database entitled "Nevada > Marriage Index, 1956-2005." > Ancestry.com, in their Source Information, cites (1) their database > Ancestry.com Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 . . . .; (2) Nevada > State Health Division, Office of Vital Records, Nevada Marriage Index, > 1966-2005 . > . . .; and (3) Clark County Nevada Marriage Bureau, Clark County > Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 . . . . > > Obviously Ancestry.com is the originator of this database. > I like to know > from whence their data comes. Should I use in the Detail section > "Citing numbers 2 and 3 above." In "Evidence Explained" I'm seeing > this used in some of the image examples but not in other databases. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Kay Fordham > ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: ‘Legacy2008’ at checkout. Offer expires 10/31/08 ** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp ** $10 OFF when you spend $50 or more in our store. Use coupon code: �Legacy2008� at checkout. 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