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Look up Chrism on Wikiedia. MEU From: Kramer [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net] Sent: 19 December, 2011 8:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening In the Catholic and Lutheran denominations, it is "baptism", usually done in infancy, confirmation in 4th-8th grade, no dedication as baptism is sufficient to not require an additional ceremony. Confirmation in many Catholic and other Christian Churches is a "fuller indwelling of the Holy Spirit" after baptism. Christening is used interchangeably with some religions that I know of but no Christian churches do not call it the Sacrament of Christening. It's the Sacrament of Baptism as most Christian Churches consider Baptism to be a Sacrament. Not all denominations agree on what is a Sacrament in the other cases such as Confirmation, Anointing of the Sick, etc. Are there any denominations that actually use the term "christening" exclusively? Not Catholics, Lutherans, or numbers of others I know of. God bless, Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: cr brassfield <mailto:crbrassfi...@hotmail.com> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:12 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening I work on following The term 'christening' refers generally to child baptims in the Anglican/Episcopalian and Catholic churches in U.K. . So any old records would show that most ancestors would carry that term if they were from those denominations or U.K origin. Later records for individuals might show 'confirmation' dates. This would be roughly equivalent to 'baptism' in non-conformist denominations. I am an evangelical Christian in the U.K. and my own record shows Chr - age 3 weeks - Church of England Confirmed - teenager - Church of England Baptised - age 38 - Baptist I simply added the last two under notes. Many non-conformist/non-denominational churches that have 'adult' baptisms usually have dedication services for infants/young children from those families so if I have those dates they are listed under 'Chr' with a note added. My late husband was from U.S. so I appreciate this can be confusing if you aren't familiar with English Christian history, or more so if you don't happen to be a Christian yourself. Most genealogy software that I've seen assumes the data required will be Western Christian/LDS. Perhaps Jewish, but I haven't seen any that allows for other faiths or cultural practices. I am open to correction on that. Carol Brassfield _____ From: tinysea...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:45:18 -0500 I have a question that I hope can be answered by the LUG. Is there a way to put the word “Baptized” that is apparently defaulted to Chr and displayed in the Family View screen? Most of the hundreds of members of my family and adjunct families were Christians and baptized in the Christian Church but not christened. I do have a few Christening certificates and, for those individuals, I do want to show a christening place and date but only for those individuals where it is true. In those cases, I don’t want the display identifier to be “Baptized”. I do know that the Chr can be changed (though only from a select list) but it appears to change all the basic format and apply to ALL individuals which would be untrue for ALL individuals in the file. I did change from the default Chr to ‘LDS: Baptism’ just to see if it would work but it doesn’t seem to change all the “sub-screens”. I’ve gone through all the HELP information and must have missed something that allows this. Surely, others have faced this issue also. Does anyone know how to make this work so I am able to make the information truthful for EACH individual? Thanks. 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