I am still with v5.0.0.97 and I like the way that version handles this situation.
On the "Individual Information" screen there is check box for "This individual Never Married" which shows as "Never Married" on the "Marriage Information" bar in "Family View". This check box is greyed out if there is a child, but you can, in that case, mark the "Marriage Status" box as "Unmarried" if the couple didn't marry. In cases where a relationship never really occured (adoption, say) you could the listed status "Other" or add your own, say, "Single Parent". In the case where you may know for sure that the individual never married, make a notation in the "General" or "Research" notes. If you MUST have (for your own satisfaction) the fact of never marrired out where you can see it, you could put it in the "Title Suffix" box maybe on the "Individual Information" screen (not sure how this would look in reports/charts). In short, I like the seperation of the two "facts" (guess that wasn't so short after all). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ward Walker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:07pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriages I think the programmer is correct and only one checkbox is required. Since it is causing confusion, perhaps the label for the checkbox needs to be enhanced (or use a pop-up help) -- something along the lines of "This person never married nor had any relationship that produced a child." If the person did marry (officially or common-law), then you don't need this checkbox at all as you can state in the 'marriage' window(s) that the couple had no children. If the person had a child from a non-marriage relationship, do we really need to have a field that states that the person is known to have never had an official marriage (or long-time commitment)? That can always go in Notes, if it is important for some reason. I think it would be odd to find a source that proves the negative: that a person never did something. One can source that the person died young or had some debilitating illness. Isn't that sufficient? The only problematic case that has come up so far is the single-parent adoption example. You might want to show that the person never married nor had any relationship that produced a biological child, but Legacy presumably disables the current checkbox once you add the adopted child. It would probably get too fancy for Legacy to detect the adopted status and enable the checkbox. I would just use Notes. Ward -----Original Message----- From: mbstx Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriages This cuts to the heart of the matter, and I agree with the request. -----Original Message----- >From: Boyd Miller <[email protected]> >Sent: Jun 21, 2013 5:05 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriages > > This highlights the need to be able to source these two parts of the >"fact" separately. >Boyd >On 21/06/2013 1:17 p.m., Tony Rolfe wrote: >> Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the >> extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subject. Just because >> Legacy must create a "marriage" record whenever a child is added to a >> parent, it doesn't mean that a real-world marriage actually occurred. >> >> It is frequently easy to tell that a person never married. It is >> usually impossible to state with any certainty that someone had no >> children. >> >> Can we please split the "This person never married and had no children" >> fact into two separate facts? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
