Louise,
You have stated the problem well. I also agree with you that Legacy handles
these "problems" as well as or better than any other program. I also agree
that many of the unique situations can be explained in notes. The
situations in your list can be divided into three categories:
1. Same sex "marriages"
Many people wish to record long term, marriage-like relationships
between people of the same sex. I don't think this is an insurmountable
programming problem, and someone said, one that Legacy is working on. If
they are, it would be nice if they confirmed that it is in the works so we
can quit talking about it.
2. How to record heterosexual relationships that result in biological
children outside of marriage.
Legacy does a pretty good job with this one. Wording has to be manually
changed, and some tinkering done with the automatic connections, but this is
doable with the present program. We are going to keep on getting inquiries
from people trying to figure out how to adjust the wording/program to the
reality and there will be people on the list who will know how to do it and
will help.
3. How to record parent/child relationships that are not biological.
This is not being done well by any program. It presents a major programming
challenge, probably the biggest challenge facing genealogy software
producers. The possibilities are so many that they probably should not try
to account for all of them. I suspect the mechanism will be to allow for a
"turn off" of some of the automatic stuff that is built into the program for
the biological parent/child relationship, and then a series of choices or
fill-in boxes.
The reason some of this cannot just be left in notes is that non-biological
children become parents and are part of our family trees. They are part of
our family history and history-in-the-making. The descent and ancestry
parts of the programs often don't work correctly for these children. It is
easy enough to explain everything with notes within the family page or
family report. It is the report-over-generations that goes awry. If you
don't have some of these variations in your family it may be difficult to
understand how screwed up some of the resulting reports get and the problems
presented.
Joan Best
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louise Par"
> Anne,
> You said:
> > Sure we could go to a program who deals with these things better
> > tyhan Legacy does, but is that really in Legacy's best interest?
> >
> > Anne
>
> You (and others) talk like there are programs that do "these things"
better
> than Legacy. I would really like to know which programs handles these
> things better than Legacy does. There have been numerous put downs of
> Legacy because it doesn't handle MANY things the way they think "these
> things" should be handled. Such as:
>
> 1. Adoptions
> 2. Single Adoptions
> 3. Same Sex Marriages
> 4. Child of Same Sex Couples (which is impossible)
> 5. Marriage (period)
> 6. Multiple Marriages
> 7. Step Children
> 8. Unmarried Mothers
> 9. Unmarried Fathers
> 10. Unmarried Couples
> 11. Never Married
> 12. Child Before Marriage
> 13. " After Marriage
> 14. " Before Divorce
> 15. " After Divorce
>
> The list could go ON-and-ON. I would REALLY like to know what programs
> handle "these things" better than Legacy. I, personally, don't think
they
> could be handled too much better than Legacy handles them.
>
> These are all things that happen in life, some being the norm
(so-to-speak)
> and some that is considered out of the norm, and some rarely happen. YET,
> they all, have happened and do happen in our lives and the lives of the
ones
> we research. Some of us want to record just Genealogical Data. Some want
> to record Family History. But, I think most of us want to research and
> record Genealogical Data AND Family History.
>
> BUT.........we cannot expect Legacy (or any other program) to be able to
> handle all "those things" because the situations in all of "those things"
> are so varied that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to meet the needs of each one.
>
> This is the reason we have various NOTES sections, like Birth Notes, Death
> Notes, General Notes and etc. We, as researchers, must be willing to put
> the information in the Note fields that would tell the accurate story of
our
> ancestors and our present life for the future generations. We cannot
expect
> Legacy to be able to show all "those things" in the operation of the
> program.
>
> This is only my OPINION. I hope I have not offended anyone with this.
>
> Louise
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Hildrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unmarried Mothers in Reports
>
>
> >
> > rom: "Michelle Safirstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > And if anyone is interested I do have a illegitment
> > > birth and it was my Grandfather. I have a pretty good
> > > idea who the mother was but there is no way I am
> > > putting that in notes or anywhere else. I would never
> > > put anything that could be untrue or slanderous in a
> > > Genealogy Program that could be read and used for
> > > years to come.
> >
> > Well some of us may have many illegitikmate births and
> > do know who both parents are, but they never married
> >
> > >
> > > If you look at these threads, especially the same-sex
> > > marriage, it is the same people time and time again
> > > that are speaking out. IMO, some people are trying to
> > > make a political statement.
> >
> > I am certainly not making a political statement when I would like
> > to have it reported correctly. I do have some of those happening,
> > it is a legal fact in several countries and I believe also in two?
> > states in the USA. Is it so wrong to hope for Legacy to be a product
> > we all feel happy to have? I don't need all the LSD stuff that there is,
> > but I have no problems that it is there just because I don't need it.
> >
> > Those who do need features says so, and why do the people who
> > don't need it complain, that there might come in something they don't
> need?
> > Sure we could go to a program who deals with these things better tyhan
> > Legacy does,
> > but is that really in Legacy's best interest?
> >
> > Anne
> >
> >
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