Hello Lewis 2017-12-11 14:39 GMT+01:00 lewis <lewisn...@operamail.com>:
> > On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 6:30:14 AM UTC+11, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: >> >> Hello Lewis, >> >> VR> My feedback focuses on Leo in a Windows environment ... >> > Lewis> Same here. I do have a plan to get a new laptop with FreeBSD > running Leo. Another day..... > VR> I'll try the same with Debian in 2018. >> I have come to the conclusion that guiding users towards using *pip* is >>> the best method. The main reasons being that it installs PyQt5 plus other >>> dependencies easily and it interacts well with Git. >>> >> >> VR> I guess, it's not a surprise that I do agree with your conclusion ;-) >> >> I also came to the view that it's not a good idea to recommend Miniconda >>> as a solution for new users installing Leo. There is no direct easy install >>> path as *conda install leo* currently doesn't work. Using pip achieves the >>> same results for all required packages. >>> I understand this is a matter of preference. Ditto for Anaconda. >>> >> >> VR> I can't comment, as I've not spent any time analyzing Anaconda and/or >> Miniconda. >> > Lewis> I haven't used Anaconda/Miniconda either. I am relying on > the experiences of others in the linked discussions. > >> >> In summary, the Install Guide says: >>> 1. Install Python >>> >> >> VR> Which assumptions are you making w.r.t. to Python having being added >> to PATH? >> > Lewis> I haven't made any assumptions. Thanks for noticing that > critical point. > * I will add a note to recommend windows users "ensure you select the > box [ ] 'Add Python 3.6 to PATH' option" > VR> Thanks. >> 2. Install Leo with pip >>> >> >> VR> Are you aware about the recent additions Matt has put into the >> installation of Leo via pip? >> VR> A simple "pip install leo" takes care about all/ most dependencies >> for a Leo user, i.e. no need to install PyQt, docutils, sphinx, etc >> separately ... >> > Lewis> Yes, Matt has been making so much progress with pip, I have > been waiting until v5.7 before testing :) > VR> Now that the focus for a Leo installation via pip will be on the user - and not - the developer role, it might be of interest that VR> PyEnchant is now also available as a wheel for Python 2.7 as well as Python 3.x. - See VR> VR> * https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyenchant/2.0.0 VR> VR> I'll follow up on this topic in a separate thread. I do intend to test it out again, from scratch, and > document the experience. The last time I used pip to install was in a > virtual environment; when PyPi listed Leo 5.3 and installed Leo 5.0b2. > I'm quite unfamiliar about pip w.r.t. Linux. Is pip > redundant given various Linux or Debian package managers? > >> >> VR> - One question however to approach you have chosen in your update: >> Why do you specifically refer to "launchLeo.py" - and - do not use the >> script "leo" or "leoc" which are available, when Leo is installed via pip? >> > > Lewis> Simply because I'm used to using "launchLeo.py". It is a > somewhat longwinded startup. > * I will familiarise myself with the "leo" or "leoc" scripts, and try > to include them in the install guide. I'm very wary of introducing too many > customisations to a new user, when all they want to do do is start > Leo up! It makes a *lot* of sense to me that "leo" *should start Leo*. > Customisation should not be required. > Matt and Viktor - can you provide some code for this if required? > VR> Yes, I'm happy to share the way I install Leo via pip using venv in a Python 3/ Windows 10 environment. >> VR> Thanks for creating this update. - It's a very good base to document >> the installation improvements, that we hopefully will see in Leo 5.7! >> > Lewis> It's a pleasure. I do see it as a base and am most thankful for > your suggestions. Once it has been edited, reviewed and tested many times, > It should be ready for v5.7 > With kind regards, Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
