Good evening, Frank... The daemons made me do it... 8-)
Frank Reichert wrote: > You are however correct. You alledued elsewhere that I am an > historican. That may be true. But to appreciate historical > western civilization, it is impossible to separate 'church > history' from 'western history', as the two histories are really > one ONE HISTORY, and inseparatably connected. Uh, Frank? Would it be more proper for you or for me to tell Mr. Sheets this fact? I really *wouldn't* assume to letting him know about this without first consulting you. > Hopefully, you will admit tonight, that western history far > predates the post reformation period! > > I guess, in all of this I am suggesting here that Jesus Christ is > the embodient of His Church, or at least as the 'head' of the > Church, and that certainly never did NOT begin in > post-reformation history in the west. Yes, I concur. > Indeed it is! Since we're talking about Christmas here, we have > another creature on the scene that the Bible talks about as the > real, legitimate, 'Son of God' Himself! Now, obviously THAT is a > hard one to chew! The real Son, or the REAL God ... born in a > simple stable, in a remote town called Bethlehem! Come on! Give > me a break! Can any of this really be true? Based upon faith it is universally accepted as true, yes. However, we have to be careful here that word of this doesn't get out. It could cause an international scene with certain parties opposed to religious beliefs who are attempting to ascend to power. > Not really, Dave. The real description of "The Birth", which I > will publish again, as I have done for the last twelve years, > from St. Luke, Chapter 2 (RSV), is not necessarily in the hands > of 'historicans' completetely. This message is in the hands of > the 'Messenger', certainly not me! That is the real mystery of > Christmas that you are looking for, and also, for all of the > post-messages you may be waiting for. > > That's why I do this every year. > > I believe that most individuals here believe in personal liberty, > as I do myself. Most of the year we talk about all facits of > what such liberty entials, and where it comes from. > > I believe it comes from the Christmas message. So, I look > forward to posting that same message, as I have done each year, > for all of these years, for eveyone to read and ponder, consider, > and contemplate, themselves. Thank you, Frank. You said it with elegance and grace. I, too, will post the same message, as I have done for all these many years, for everyone to read and ponder, consider and contemplate. It is a tradition between you and I that goes back over a decade, one in which I am very, very proud to have been a participant. Dave -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 11/24/2004 Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net Fortune Random Thought For the Minute You did WHAT with your bare hands?!? _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
