Doris
> Yes it is, but one should add to it "or fraud" for clarity.

In which case, it is no longer an initiation. An initiation
implies being the first to do something.

If someone is fraudulent and the police respond use force
to arrest him, then the police are being "the first".

Regards
Tim

The Matrix
Morpheus: You've felt it your entire life, that there's
  something wrong with the world.

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