Doris > Yes it is, but one should add to it "or fraud" for clarity.
In which case, it is no longer an initiation. An initiation implies being the first to do something. If someone is fraudulent and the police respond use force to arrest him, then the police are being "the first". Regards Tim The Matrix Morpheus: You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw