2009/11/21 Maciej Łoziński <[email protected]>: > Gordon Haverland pisze: >> On November 20, 2009, drew Roberts wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Haverland >>> >>>> We can observe correlations between people's complete >>>> libraries, which I believe (with no proof) is what Last.fm >>>> does. We could look at the time series of songs that people >>>> listen to: what is the probability that a person wants to >>>> listen to classical music within N different songs? >>> If we want to do something like this right, will we not need >>> some player cooperation? A toggle to send along info as to >>> whether this series of plays is from a personally hand ordered >>> playlist or not. (personally chosen order versus randome, >>> computer chosen or "other" chosen of some sort. >>> >>> snip >> >> I think it would be useful to know whether the scrobbling is >> coming from a hand ordered list, from some music player's idea of >> random, or from some external source. Supposedly a hand compiled >> list what not see the user skipping to the end of a song. For >> using some music player's definition of random, you might find >> users more often skipping to the end of song. In listening to an >> external source, the only thing which comes to mind is the >> Love/Hate tags which Last.fm uses (or used to use). >> >> Do any music players give information on music sources? How many >> have Love/Hate options? >> > > Doesn't the playing order is enough information in each case? User-made > playlists are of course the best source of data, but in case of lists > randomly generated by player, user usually skips song he doesn't like,
No. This cannot be relied on. I often start listening and jump in the shower of begin some other activity that precludes me from doing anything to alter the playing in any way from that point for a good while. > and playlists from external source (internet radio) are generated by > some person (dj?) using some rules, Perhaps, perhaps not. It could have been generated as a part of a clock in a scheduling program. which give us some sort of > similarity between them. And also there are reasons why user has > selected this station among lots of others, which makes dj-selected > tracks somehow similar to this user's tracks. > But I have to admit, if we had an information about the souce of > playlist, it would be useful. But not every player has that information > and it's not a part of last.fm API (which libre.fm implements). > Love/hate would be great. I think we can use it if player supports it. > And when we do, more players will support it :-) > So, add the ability to deal with this info if it exists and then hope to encourage the supplying of it where it does not currently exist? Sounds reasonable, any possible problems with it? all the best, drew -- http://freemusicpush.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Libre-fm mailing list [email protected] http://lists.autonomo.us/mailman/listinfo/libre-fm
