Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:37:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OT: 30GB BIOS barrier on Dell Dimension



Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Date: 
>
>Matt Hanson wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for all the feedback on this guys.  I'm not
receiving list 
>> posts to my Hotmail account, and
>> have notified Dan... so I got this Yahoo account
for a backup.

>Ah, that's why the lines in your message are not
wrapped at 72 or so
>chars. So I had to edit a bit to get the quotes
right, sorry.
 
Yeah... I was looking at that when I was composing,
and noticed Yahoo is set up for HTML in outgoing
email.  I think I can switch that off.

But guess what...  I connected the 120GB WD HDD to the
primary plug as master on the primary IDE channel on
the MB, booted the system with 2 Partition Magic
floppies, and PM saw the entire 120GB disk! 
Previously I had installed that drive via the PCI
controller card, and ran PM on it from within WinME
booted from the 10GB HDD, and then created a 10GB
FAT32 at the >end< of the 120GB HDD.  That 10GB
partition was for running Ghost, and creating an image
of the 10GB saved to that 10GB partition on the 120GB
HDD as a backup.

So I went ahead and installed W2000 directly on the
120GB HDD via 4 setup floppies after running PM to
create a 5GB primary NTFS partition at the beginning
of the drive, and a primary 100GB NTFS partition after
that that fills up to the 10GB FAT32 partition at the
end.

>> But then I was thinking I could repartition the
10GB HDD into 2 5GB 
>>partitions, and then use
>> PowerQuest's BootMagic to boot either OS.  But
BootMagic has a 
>>warning about enabling boot from an
>> NTFS partition saying that it may cause data
corruption on the 
>>existing 10GB HDD.
>> 
>> So I'm considering installing W2K to a >Fat32<
partition on the 10GB 
>>HDD, and using the 120GB HDD as
>> an NTFS data drive to take advantage of NTFS
support for writing >4GB 
>>files.  But then I don't know
>> if I can get BootMagic to hide the NTFS drive with
WinME is booted.  
>>Will WinME just ignore the NTFS
>> formatted HDD, or might leaving it visable cause
problems for WinME?

>You can have a FAT32 WinME boot drive (primary, C:)
and then install
>Win2K in a logical partition (D:).
>First install WinME in C:, then Win2K in D:, and
Win2K will put its 
>boot loader + boot manager in C: and as WinME doesn't
know about NTFS it
>won't be bothered. (Don't be put off by FDISK knowing
about NTFS; it
>just knows the NTFS partition type but can't do
anything with it).
>
>On my desktop I use Air-Boot. This is very flexible
freeware, it can
>hide any partition and has a MBR virus protection
scheme. It can also
>boot from USB drives CD-ROMs, floppies and -if I'm
not mistaken- other
>harddisks. (But the author doesn't like people
working for US govt, so
>if you do.....)
>I use it because it is probably the only boot mgr
around that can boot
>OS/2 from a logical partition yet doesn't need a
primary partition 
>slot.
>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/system/air-bootv102_en.zip
 
Okay...  I've just downloaded that file.  I'm hoping
it will install to either the 10GB or 120GB HDD, and
so it can see both drives.  While writing, I now have
the 120GB set up as slave on the secondary IDE
channel, and at least WinME on the 10GB can see it. 
So that's good.

I also notice that my old copy of Norton Ghost doesn't
run on a W2K NTFS drive, so I can't backup to an image
file.  Do you know if the newer ones will Philip?  Or
maybe you or someone else can suggest a freeware
imaging program that will do the trick.  I'll search
the archives and net if not.

Do you think I'll have any problems having set up W2K
on 2 primary partitions on the 120GB?  I'm guessing it
shouldn't matter that I didn't choose an logical
partition.

It's a bit of a puzzlement that the Dell can now see
the entire 120GB HDD.  But as we've seen in the past,
like what Raymond experienced, you just never know
what a bit of experimentation can come up with without
any obvious explanation.

>If you install Win2K anyway and use it to partition
the 120 GB HD, you
>might do without any disk manager at all. As soon as
the proper entries
>have been put in the MBR, chances are that other
operating systems
>(e.g., DOS + Win9x/ME) will see the entire disk.
>From what I understand the 120GB HD is empty, so it
wil only cost some
>time to experiment.
>And afterward you can install WinME somewhere and use
Win2K CD-ROM
>and/or recovery console to restore Win2K's boot mgr.

I've decided to leave WinME as set up now on the Dell,
and the entire 10GB HDD untouched.  With the 120GB now
fully recognized for some reason, it looks like what
I've described here will work.

I've still got to deal with a boot loader though, and
the FAT32 10GB HDD w/WinME doesn't see the 120GB HDD
NTFS partitions.  So hopefully I can get some boot
loaded to install from FDD.  And I'm hoping the system
won't have aqny problems booting the 120GB that's set
up as slave on the secondary IDE channel.

>I'd say: enough suggestions, time to give it a try?

Si.... bueno!

Philip



                
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