Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:38:55 +0100 From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive?
Hi, Thanks for your reply. Got a cheap 20GB IBM TravelStar today :) But having a little trouble formatting it and installing win 98 (I don't really know what I'm doing) :( I deleted all the partitions using desktop->Win XP->computer management. Then I tried creating a new partition using a Fdisk from a Dos 6.22 boot disk in the libretto (downloaded from www.bootdisk.com). I thought this would give me the max primary partition size (8GB ish) but when I created a maximum primary partition it was only 2GB :( So I then tried creating a 7.8GB Fat32 partition in desktop->Win XP->computer management instead. I then copied my old Win98se CD to the c: drive, put drive back in the libretto and booted from my dos disk. But it wouldn't let me switch to the c: drive... error "Invalid drive specification". Should this work, what am I doing wrong? Is it possible to use a 8GB primary partition? Does it need to be formatted as fat16 (Win XP->computer management didn't give me fat16 option)? Do I ned to be using EZ-drive？ Does Win XP->computer management use 1,000 or 1,024 when specifying partition sizes? Ideally I want a 8GB partition for Win98 (C:) 100mb for hibernation data and 12GB for a second partition (D:). Libretto bios version is 6.20. I have tried searching the archive and www.silverace.com/libretto/ but can't find an idiot proof guide for setting up 8GB+ drive on the 70CT, please help. Thanks Jon D -----Original Message----- From: Philip Nienhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2005 12:27 To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:33:05 +0200 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? Jon DuQueno wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:00:45 +0100 > From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? > > Thanks for all your help. > > Looks like the libretto is mine if I want it, so i'm going to see if I can > pick up a cheap 6GB+ HD from second hand shop next week. > > I've been looking on www.silverace.com/libretto/ and think I know how I can > get it up and running: > 1) Get HD and connect to desktop via 3.5" adapter > > 2) Format 8GB(max) primary Fat32(?) partition leaving 32MB(?) for > hibernation data. If the Lib 70CT has the same BIOS limitations as the 110CT model, the maximum size of that primary FAT32 partition, would be more or less as follows (assuming 32 MB RAM): - max 1019 cylinders, or - 8.385 GB (in SI units = based on 1,000) or - 7.803 GiB (based of 1,024) This would also be the maximum combined size of all partitions below the 8 GB mark. But why make one big partition? It is better to split it up in two or more, one for the Win98SE + programs, the other(s) for data. And/or use the third one for storage of the Win98 & other SW setup files. BTW, while still in the desktop, you might format the primary partition from DOS using FORMAT /S. Would save you the hassle of having to boot from floppy. > > 3) Copy Win98se cd-rom data & other software to HD using desktop (don't have > cd-rom drive for libretto so guess this is quickest/easiest way?). Probably. Other options (in case of HD inside Libretto): - A network/LAN. There exist excellent DOS bootdisks fitted with drivers for many 16-bit LAN adapters (AFAIK the 70-CT doesn't support Cardbus anyway); I have one and used it for a Xircom CEM33 PCMCIA LAN card/modem. - Laplink cable. Either serial (if you've got the time ;-) or parallel (usually about 50 KB/s). DOS Interlnk would be the program to use. - CF-cards or SD cards or so, fitted with a proper CF/SD-to-PCMCIA adapter, & DOS drivers for PCMCIA (card & socket services). I don't know if such DOS drivers can be obtained easily. A HD in a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter is probably the easiest and fastest. > 4) Install drive in Libretto > > 5) Boot from DOS 6.22 boot disk and run win98se setup.exe. See above. > 6) Install libretto drivers, tools and utilities > > 7) Install and play Doom > > Please correct me if any of this is wrong. Nothing wrong yet, I just gave some hints based on my own experiences. > Questions: > 1) Laplink cable - Is this just a serial cable and some software? Can I use > this to transfer win98se to libretto HD even if no OS is installed? Yes, see above. But it is slow, especially the serial option. > 2) I found a PCMCIA Xercon network card, can I use this to connect to my > LAN. Do I need to install win98se and drivers first for it to work. Yes and not necessarily, resp. See above. I forgot the link(s) to the DOS boot LAN disks: http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/ (probably the best one around) http://tdonline.com/bootdisk.htm (never tried this one) > 3) Is it possible to use a wireless network card with the libretto 70. This > would be pretty cool. Why not. I got a Cisco 350 PCMCIA wifi card; works even in my old Digital SLC450/e from, uhmmm, 11 years ago (a whopping 50 Mhz 486DX & 20 MB RAM under Win95). Don't expect miracles as regards performance... > 4) Which OS will run fastest 95, 98se or 2000. Since it's 32MB & 120Mhz this Better avoid Win95. It did serve me well for some years on my 110CT, but it is too old now, relatively unstable, has many many limitations under the hood, etc. > could be an issue. Can I dual boot 98se and 2000 if I get big enough HD? Sure. But on my Lib 110CT with 64 MB & 233 Mhz CPU, Win2000 performance is barely adequate. On 32 MB and a much slower CPU, Win2000 is really too slow. You can try Fred Vorck's method or nLite or (if you really want to pay) Win2KLite to strip Win2K down, but I doubt if it's worth the trouble. http://www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html (rest of he URLs on that page) > 5) What about the 8.4GB limit, do I need to install EZ-Drive? Only if you have a HD bigger than 8.4 GB. And even then you strictly do not need it; I'm not one of the proponents of EZ-drive. But many Libretters are fond of it, and that IS an important fact to keep in mind. The problem is with the Libretto BIOS. If you partition an entire HD > 8.4 GB in your desktop using the 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter, chances are that you do not need a disk overlay at all and that once in the Libretto even DOS can see all of your HD beyond 8.4 GB. If it works for you this way, keep in mind that any repartitioning must NOT be done in the Libretto but in your desktop. > 6) Will I need to do a bios update? If so how? I got no 70CT so I can't tell. Have a look on the Toshiba support site and look around for downloads? > > 7) What can I use it for other than Doom? Wirelessly browsing internet? Whatever you want. > Playing MP3's from desktop on LAN, what's the audio line-out quality like? My Lib110CT has just bearable audio quality; I don't expect better from a 70 CT. In the list archives there are (even quite recent) messages about PCMCIA audio cards - go figure. Philip > > Thanks > > > Jon D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 October 2005 10:24 > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:24:54 +1000 > From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? > > Any 8.5mm hard drive (yes, 8.5mm, not 9.5mm) will work straight away with > the exception that you may wish to install a drive overlay (like EZ-Bios) > to get access to more than 8GB from within DOS (opinions on this vary). > > If you want to install a conventional 9.5mm hard drive you'll need to > remove some spacers from the bottom of the hard drive cavity otherwise > you'll run the risk of cracking the RAM chips off the board (they're right > above where the hard drive sits, putting a 9.5mm hard drive in without > removing the spacers warps the motherboard). > > Search the archives for debates on this topic ( > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - an older one, and > http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ - a new one so I've got > no idea how far back it goes ). I seem to recall a thread titled "20 gig > Fujitsu in an overclocked L50 and working!" that might be of use to you > (there are plenty of others as well). > > Have fun! > > - Raymond > > P.S. Welcome to the list! :-) > > At 06:04 AM 12/10/2005 -0700, you wrote: > >>Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:03:01 -0700 (PDT) >>From: Jonathan DuQueno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Libretto 70CT - Replacment hard drive? >> >>Hi, >> >>New to here. Just found an old Libretto 70CT in office store room >>(complete with floppy drive docking station and win 95 disks). >> >>My aim is to install Win 95 and Doom on it. Just because I think it's cute >>and i'm very bored at work (been made redundent, 3 more weeks of doing >>nothing before start new job). >>However I think the hard disk is dead :( says no system disk when try to >>boot, the BIOS config page confirms this. However there is a 2GB drive >>installed (felt very hot when I opened it up). I managed to boot off Win >>95 floppy but can't install because "no hard drive". >> >>My guess is the hard drive is dead, is there anything else that could be >>causing this problem? >>Are there any bios limitions on replacement drives? Can I use any 2.5" >><9.5mm laptop drive? Would a 20GB or even 40GB drive work? >> >>Thanks >> >> >>Jon D >> >> >> >>Libretto <libretto@basiclink.com> wrote: > > > --- > > > /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ > | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?" | > | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | > | /__/ +-------------------------------------------| > | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | > | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | > \~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/ > > > > > > > >
