Peter and Andy,

Thank you for detailing a plan for revampment of our voting system that
makes so much sense. It really is a no-brainer. And the percentages broken
down by age that Peter provided are quite telling.

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 6:17 PM Peter Buchthal <pbucht...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A town meeting is an all day plus affair which disenfranchises many
> younger voters with families and other voters who are unable to attend all
> day meetings.
>
> At our last special town meeting in early December we had 878 voters
> check-in with the following distribution of voters by age.
> 18-29 30-39 40-49 50-59 60-69 70-79 80+
> 2% 5% 14% 16% 23% 24% 16%
>
> With only 640ish cast ballots for preference votes for the Community
> Center and HCA rezoning, we lost 16/% of our checked-in voters as many
> didn't stay to participate in both important votes.  Please note that only
> 21% of the vote is 49 or under.
>
>
> With a poor representation of our younger residents, We need to revamp our
> Town Meetings to better engage our 4876 registered voters.  Certain votes
> require 2/3 of a town meeting and with such poor voter turnout, the power
> of a few well organized groups can dominate the decisions of the town
> unjustly.
>
> I propose
> 1) The town should purchase electronic voting devices to speed up all town
> meetings.  At least 60 towns in the commonwealth already successfully use
> these devices.  I bet we could save at least a couple of hours at each town
> meeting by using this proven technology. List of Mass Towns
> <https://www.meridiaars.com/electronic-voting-system-in-massachusetts-towns/>
>
>
> 2)  We should explore Andy Wang's earlier suggestion of separating the
> debate/amend parts of a Town Meeting from the voting part.  The town should
> create a working group to explore the many different ways to increase voter
> participation at Town Meetings.  Maybe we can even get this new style of
> Town Meeting ready for our March meeting.
>
> Many towns like Concord have town meetings that last several days and have
> even poorer voter participation than ours Concord Town Meeting
> Participation
> <https://concordma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/43398/TOWN-MEETING-VOTER-PARTICIPATION-1997-2023>.
> The working group should explore separating the time consuming parts of a
> Town Meeting from the voting part.   The first day of the Town Meeting
> could work through, amend and debate all contentious warrants up to an
> actual vote.  At a certain point when a warrant is ready to vote, the
> moderator should table the vote until the continuation of the 2nd day of
> the town meeting.  Information about the 1st day's work will be posted
> online with a video that voters would be able to review.  The 2nd day of
> only voting would be a couple of days after the first and begin at a set
> time and be finished hopefully after only spending a couple of minutes per
> vote if the Town purchases electronic voting devices.
>
> Peter Buchthal
> Weston Rd
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 9:01 AM Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As of March, according to the election results.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Garrick Niemiec <
>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 9:52 PM Garrick Niemiec <
>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5000 voters are on record
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 9:36 PM Barbara Low <barbara_...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought there were about 5000 residents, not voters.
>>>>>  Does anyone know the actual number of voters?
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> on behalf of Sara
>>>>> Mattes <samat...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2023 8:22:46 PM
>>>>> *To:* Garrick Niemiec <garrickniemiec...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Wow 800 Lincoln folk vote at STM
>>>>>
>>>>> Most towns do NOT do this.
>>>>> Laws which govern Open Town Meeting towns  are the determining factors.
>>>>> Perhaps all who want to come up with some new concepts should get
>>>>> together, like LRHA, and research and propose to the town.
>>>>> That would be really instructive and constructive.
>>>>>
>>>>> March will have a ballot, in addition to the TM vote -to approve the
>>>>> $$ for the Community Center.
>>>>> One could skip TM and simply vote at the ballot box the following
>>>>> Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I urge all who are interested in this issue to form a study
>>>>> group and see what options are available.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Sara Mattes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Garrick Niemiec <
>>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't disagree more...we need to make voting accessable...time
>>>>> for change Sara.. time for change now. Let us vote electronically...all of
>>>>> us remotely.  C'mon most towns do it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> New comers including  my family all recognize this!
>>>>>
>>>>> The system is sooo antiquated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Join us now before the march town meeting fails us again!  Again and
>>>>> again and again!
>>>>>
>>>>> As a good friend said at STM we are not spending our money wisely!
>>>>> You know that...a school project for 30M turns into 100 M. Driven by
>>>>> current Lincoln politics including selects.  Yikes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now RLF is bankrupt? What's going on here.  We're in a tailspin.  Any
>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 6:53 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Garrick,
>>>>> Town Meeting is open to all who care enough to attend.
>>>>> It not a drive-by!
>>>>> When people make noise about wanting a secret ballot at a ballot box,
>>>>> there is no evidence that indicates a huge leap in participation!
>>>>> I don’t like the way thing unfolded or the (predictable) outcome, but
>>>>> it was not because voting was not available tall.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Sara Mattes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 5:53 PM, Garrick Niemiec <
>>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 5000 are registered voters...this is NOT the Lincoln way!!!
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