I don't want to attend the meeting. I just want to vote. Please let us vote.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 6:14 AM Fil Zembowicz <fzem...@gmail.com> wrote: > As a 30-something (I guess under-represented?) software developer > (over-represented?) in town, I found the inefficiency of the mechanics of > the tallying process the frustrating part of the meeting. > > Hearing the presentations and public comments is amazing and something I > find very valuable. Sitting around waiting for addition to happen manually > is another matter... > > It's 2023 ... we could trivially have a system whereby each voter > attending the meeting (or not?) is given a unique link via text message or > email at which they can input their vote (once) on their phone, while > providing summary statistics to the moderator in real time. I can't imagine > this is a new idea, there are surely vendors that provide this service to > numerous states and municipalities. This is not a "hard problem", it would > take a weekend to build a simple version of this. I would be happy to > advise on / help implement such a thing if there is motivation to do so. > > Fil > 16 Minebrook Rd > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 9:19 PM Robert Ahlert <robahl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Town meeting is special, a chance to discuss and decide on issues. The >> camaraderie is cathartic after intense pre-election debating. >> >> However, when it comes time to vote, i think emotion should not play a >> role and therefore I prefer electronic voting. I trust my fellow residents >> to do their homework and come prepared to cast a ballot. >> >> Rob Ahlert >> 185 Lincoln Road >> >> *Robert Ahlert* | *781.738.1069* | robahl...@gmail.com >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 9:00 PM Laura Crosby <lauracros...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I’m 100% in agreement in purchasing >>> electronic voting devices. Valerie >>> Fox is also in agreement. >>> We lost close to two hours >>> at the recent Special Town >>> Meeting waiting for votes to be >>> counted. >>> Many left after first vote due >>> to timing issues. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2023, at 6:47 PM, Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Peter and Andy, >>> >>> Thank you for detailing a plan for revampment of our voting system that >>> makes so much sense. It really is a no-brainer. And the percentages broken >>> down by age that Peter provided are quite telling. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Scott Clary >>> 617-968-5769 >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 6:17 PM Peter Buchthal <pbucht...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A town meeting is an all day plus affair which disenfranchises many >>>> younger voters with families and other voters who are unable to attend all >>>> day meetings. >>>> >>>> At our last special town meeting in early December we had 878 voters >>>> check-in with the following distribution of voters by age. >>>> 18-29 30-39 40-49 50-59 60-69 70-79 80+ >>>> 2% 5% 14% 16% 23% 24% 16% >>>> >>>> With only 640ish cast ballots for preference votes for the Community >>>> Center and HCA rezoning, we lost 16/% of our checked-in voters as many >>>> didn't stay to participate in both important votes. Please note that only >>>> 21% of the vote is 49 or under. >>>> >>>> >>>> With a poor representation of our younger residents, We need to revamp >>>> our Town Meetings to better engage our 4876 registered voters. Certain >>>> votes require 2/3 of a town meeting and with such poor voter turnout, the >>>> power of a few well organized groups can dominate the decisions of the town >>>> unjustly. >>>> >>>> I propose >>>> 1) The town should purchase electronic voting devices to speed up all >>>> town meetings. At least 60 towns in the commonwealth already successfully >>>> use these devices. I bet we could save at least a couple of hours at each >>>> town meeting by using this proven technology. List of Mass Towns >>>> <https://www.meridiaars.com/electronic-voting-system-in-massachusetts-towns/> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) We should explore Andy Wang's earlier suggestion of separating the >>>> debate/amend parts of a Town Meeting from the voting part. The town should >>>> create a working group to explore the many different ways to increase voter >>>> participation at Town Meetings. Maybe we can even get this new style of >>>> Town Meeting ready for our March meeting. >>>> >>>> Many towns like Concord have town meetings that last several days and >>>> have even poorer voter participation than ours Concord Town Meeting >>>> Participation >>>> <https://concordma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/43398/TOWN-MEETING-VOTER-PARTICIPATION-1997-2023>. >>>> The working group should explore separating the time consuming parts of a >>>> Town Meeting from the voting part. The first day of the Town Meeting >>>> could work through, amend and debate all contentious warrants up to an >>>> actual vote. At a certain point when a warrant is ready to vote, the >>>> moderator should table the vote until the continuation of the 2nd day of >>>> the town meeting. Information about the 1st day's work will be posted >>>> online with a video that voters would be able to review. The 2nd day of >>>> only voting would be a couple of days after the first and begin at a set >>>> time and be finished hopefully after only spending a couple of minutes per >>>> vote if the Town purchases electronic voting devices. >>>> >>>> Peter Buchthal >>>> Weston Rd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 9:01 AM Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As of March, according to the election results. >>>>> <29AFF794-562A-4589-B5F3-D20DB548516B.png> >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Garrick Niemiec < >>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 9:52 PM Garrick Niemiec < >>>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 5000 voters are on record >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 9:36 PM Barbara Low <barbara_...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought there were about 5000 residents, not voters. >>>>>>>> Does anyone know the actual number of voters? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device >>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> on behalf of >>>>>>>> Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2023 8:22:46 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* Garrick Niemiec <garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Wow 800 Lincoln folk vote at STM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most towns do NOT do this. >>>>>>>> Laws which govern Open Town Meeting towns are the determining >>>>>>>> factors. >>>>>>>> Perhaps all who want to come up with some new concepts should get >>>>>>>> together, like LRHA, and research and propose to the town. >>>>>>>> That would be really instructive and constructive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> March will have a ballot, in addition to the TM vote -to approve >>>>>>>> the $$ for the Community Center. >>>>>>>> One could skip TM and simply vote at the ballot box the following >>>>>>>> Monday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again, I urge all who are interested in this issue to form a study >>>>>>>> group and see what options are available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> Sara Mattes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Garrick Niemiec < >>>>>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I couldn't disagree more...we need to make voting accessable...time >>>>>>>> for change Sara.. time for change now. Let us vote >>>>>>>> electronically...all of >>>>>>>> us remotely. C'mon most towns do it now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New comers including my family all recognize this! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The system is sooo antiquated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Join us now before the march town meeting fails us again! Again >>>>>>>> and again and again! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a good friend said at STM we are not spending our money wisely! >>>>>>>> You know that...a school project for 30M turns into 100 M. Driven by >>>>>>>> current Lincoln politics including selects. Yikes! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now RLF is bankrupt? What's going on here. We're in a tailspin. >>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 6:53 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Garrick, >>>>>>>> Town Meeting is open to all who care enough to attend. >>>>>>>> It not a drive-by! >>>>>>>> When people make noise about wanting a secret ballot at a ballot >>>>>>>> box, there is no evidence that indicates a huge leap in participation! >>>>>>>> I don’t like the way thing unfolded or the (predictable) outcome, >>>>>>>> but it was not because voting was not available tall. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> Sara Mattes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 5:53 PM, Garrick Niemiec < >>>>>>>> garrickniemiec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5000 are registered voters...this is NOT the Lincoln way!!! >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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