OK, right, I think there was a long thread on this subject in terms of
SuSE and the "cost" of the Enterprise Server. From my memory of this
thread the reason that SuSE S/390 SLES was more $'s is because it "came"
with a support contract. Unless I am having a synaptic fault seems that
both these companies are doing very similar characteristics with the
product.
Regards,
Jon
Jon R. Doyle
Sendmail Inc.
6425 Christie Ave
Emeryville, Ca. 94608
(o_
(o_ (o_ //\
(/)_ (\)_ V_/_
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Post, Mark K wrote:
> Jon, Florian, all,
>
> Just to provide another perspective on this (and to assure all the folks at
> Red Hat that they didn't totally botch what they were saying) I took this
> statement to mean what Florian and Bernhard later explained more clearly:
> that if you bought Red Hat Linux/390 that you had to pay for a Red Hat
> Linux/390 support contract also, not that they were the only company capable
> of providing support for Linux/390.
>
> Mark Post
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon R. Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo
>
>
> Hi Florian;
>
> since you have been both at SuSE and now Redhat maybe you can clarify what
> you are saying here for me:
>
> ---SNIP---
>
> If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with
> > a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as
> > later on supporting it if you discover defects.
>
> --SNIP--
>
>
> Does this mean if I -buy- say SuSE they are not able to suport the
> product? What do you mean by "this is only available together with
> > a support contract" I thought we heard here on the list a couple weks
> ago SuSE was offering "Enterprise Server" with suupoort? Is Redhat the
> only vendor out there now that can offer support?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Jon R. Doyle
> Sendmail Inc.
> 6425 Christie Ave
> Emeryville, Ca. 94608
>
>
> (o_
> (o_ (o_ //\
> (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
>
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Florian La Roche wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:08:09AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > If they've posted the GA code on their FTP server, it should be
> available
> > > for download by anyone. The fact that they don't have .iso images isn't
> > > particularly relevant or important. I have not previously heard
> anything
> > > about Red Hat requiring that they do an installation. Perhaps that is
> only
> > > if you want to purchase a support contract from them. Even so, that
> would
> > > not prevent you from doing your own installs on another image/system.
> They
> > > just wouldn't be willing to support those installations. Still, if you
> get
> > > a definite answer, I'd be interested in hearing what it is. Stuff like
> this
> > > is important, and I would like to make sure it gets on the linuxvm.org
> web
> > > site.
> >
> > Hello Mark Post,
> >
> > your summary is correct and I'll add some personal comments:
> >
> > Red Hat Linux is Open Source and can be downloaded from our ftp-server.
> > If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with
> > a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as
> > later on supporting it if you discover defects.
> >
> > Not only the last release is available as Open Source from Red Hat, but
> also
> > newer developments are uploaded as "rawhide" versions to ftp.redhat.com.
> > This allows the development community to try out our newest versions,
> > participate in development if they want to or just give us feedback about
> > the current status. This allows us to provide official bug-fixes and
> errata
> > updates for our last release as well as continuing high-speed development
> > of the next release.
> >
> > In the case of s390 we are facing two areas that are still a bit more
> > under development:
> > - The kernel on s390 needs more stabilization.
> > - The install support for Red Hat Linux needs further improvements. Quite
> > some good feedback has been given on our product and I think we already
> > have implemented most of them.
> >
> > We will try to come up with an official update for the kernel and also
> > install support. This should also allow a much easier addition of a
> > "driverdisk" that could allow a real easy way to add OCO modules
> > to Red Hat Linux.
> >
> > cu,
> >
> > Florian La Roche
> >
> >
> > Florian La Roche Tel.: +49-711-96437-460
> > head of development EMEA Tel.: +49-172-6373899
> > Red Hat GmbH Fax.: +49-711-96437-111
> > Hauptstaetterstr. 58 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > D-70178 Stuttgart http://www.redhat.de/
> >
> > >
> > > Mark Post
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:30 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo
> > >
> > >
> > > What are the Redhat ground rules for downloading
> > > and demo'ing their latest GA (i.e. the ISO images).
> > > Is anyone allowed to do this ?
> > > Are there any timeframe boundaries for demo'ing ?
> > >
> > > Also, we asked for pricing a few weeks back and got some
> > > feedback that stated that Redhat MUST do the installation.
> > > Is this true?
> > >
> > > As a consultant (needing to learn the various installation
> methods)...I'm
> > > sure I don't like this !
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Redhat-s390-list mailing list
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-s390-list
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Redhat-s390-list mailing list
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-s390-list
> >
>
