Peter,
CMS operating system doesn't have any mechanism to safely share an
ACCESS-ed RW mdisk with another CMS user that has that same mdisk
ACCESS-ed RW; think of it as wiring the same hard drive to 2 windozPC's.
So yes there are serious CMS sharing issues, don't do it. 

"Can I attach 6815 to my second level z/VM 5.3 guest and then logon with

x062pea or do I need to detach it to our first level z/VM 5.1 system.?"

You could do as you proposed:
  DETACH 6815 SYSTEM and then ATTACH 6815 guest53. On 2ndlevel guest do
VARY ON 6815, ATTACH 6815 SYSTEM and update the 2nd-level directory with
the 5.1 staff definitions.  Or the staff definitions could be added
before the ATTACH 6815. 
 While 6815's attached to the guest none of its mdisks defined to the
5.1 system's directory will be available on 5.1: PACK NOT MOUNTED or
some-such message if 5.1 user X062PEA logs on.

If you have trouble with the DETACH 6815, try CP Q SYSTEM 6815 to see
which currently logged on users have an mdisk/LINK-ed-mdisk on 6815.



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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: z/VM 5.1 to 5.3 upgrade ( a little handholding requested) PART
2

Thanks to everyone that responded to my original hand holding request. 
With everyone?s response we were able to install z/VM 5.3 as a second 
level guest to our z/VM V5.1. We also applied the latest RSU maintenance

and have performed backups of our 5.3 system. 

We are now looking to migrate our users (system programmers). Remember,
we 
only use z/VM for Linux guest only. I was going to migrate (cut and
paste) 
our z/VM 5.1 guest directory entries into our z/VM 5.3 user direct and 
perform a DIRECTXA which should work. We only have about 20. But. . . .
we 
have some sharing concerns.

For example: I want to cut the following entry from user direct on z/VM 
5.1 and paste it in user direct on z/VM 5.3 and put it online.

USER X062PEA ******** 64M 100M ABCDEFG
   INCLUDE IBMDFLT
   ACCOUNT 1 SYSPROG
   IPL CMS
   MACH XA
   OPTION MAINTCCW LNKS LNKE LNKNOPAS
   LINK TCPMAINT 0592 0592 RR
   MDISK 0191 3390 11 5 VMUSR0 MR
   MDISK 0199 3390 31 100 VMUSR0 RR 

Volume VMUSR0 looks like the following under our current 5.1 system:

DASD 6815 CP SYSTEM VMUSR0   13

Here are the questions.

Can I attach 6815 to my second level z/VM 5.3 guest and then logon with 
x062pea or do I need to detach it to our first level z/VM 5.1 system.

Are they any sharing concerns that I need to be aware of?

Our final z/VM 5.3 test will be ipling it in a separate LPAR. Are their 
additional sharing concerns I have to worry about?

Anthing that will get us on the right track is appreciated. We want to 
make sure that we do not cause problems with our production z/VM, 
especially over the long holiday.

Thanks as always.

Peter

Remember, we are old MVSers but very young VMers. Go slow.

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