I'm talking about initiating the flashcopy  ...  not mirroring solutions...


CSM let's you initiate flashcopy with consistency groups.    z/VM can only
do serial FLASHCOPY commands...

Scott Rohling

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> You don't need Copy Services Manager, you just need a storage subsystem
> capable and enabled for Global Mirror, which is independent and outside of
> any operating system.  z/VM disks can be part of a consistency group, just
> as VSE, z/OS, Linux or TPF disks can.
>
> Sam
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com>
> Date: 11/11/16 08:20 (GMT-07:00)
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions
>
> While z/VM can't use consistency groups -- z/OS and zLinux can with CSM
> (Copy Services Manager)  ....    I'm currently involved in a project where
> we have this running on a zLinux guest to be able to flash with consistency
> groups.
>
> Scott Rohling
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 11/10/2016 at 09:12 GMT, "Ponte, Douglas C. (JMD)"
> > <douglas.c.po...@usdoj.gov> wrote:
> > > Fullpack volume backups ---- can be run daily, weekly and monthly,
> using
> > JCL with automation tools
> > > (existing on z/OS already, e.g. BMC Control-M or Tivoli Automation).
> > This should be done with all
> > > z/VM and zLinux volumes.
> > >
> > > In the full volume backup cases, stopping/shutting down is not always
> > necessary, albeit it may be
> > > good practice to at least quiesce when it comes to DB?s and heavy use
> > servers. (e.g. DB2, Oracle,
> > > etc)
> >
> > WARNING:  To do this reliably, you need software that is capable of
> > establishing an I/O consistency group.  If you want to FLASHCOPY the
> > volumes and sequentially backup the volume copies, that's ok, but do NOT
> > just sequentially copy the live volumes of a running z/VM system.  (If
> you
> > wouldn't do it to a running z/OS system, don't do it to any other
> system.)
> >  This process is intimately tied to your DR strategy, too, so get it
> > right.
> >
> > If you have databases, use the backup software for the database.  If
> > you're using hardware replication, be sure that it's supported by the
> > database vendor.
> >
> > Some people take a too-casual approach to backups and DR.  I too often
> > hear "Don't worry, I'm doing it from z/OS." as though z/OS has magical
> > powers over z/VM and Linux.  Don't fall into that trap.  That way there
> be
> > dragons.
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> >
> > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
> > Lab Services System z Delivery Practice
> > IBM Systems & Technology Group
> > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
> > office: 607.429.3323
> > mobile; 607.321.7556
> > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
> > IBM Endicott
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