Please explain how to use ICKDSF to establish a consistency group and initiate a flashcopy .... I see no way to do it...
Scott Rohling On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > > CSM (or command line on the SSCP (or whatever it's called these days) can > do it, as can ICKDSF on z/VM. > > Sam > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > Date: 11/11/16 10:15 (GMT-07:00) > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > I'm talking about initiating the flashcopy ... not mirroring solutions... > > > CSM let's you initiate flashcopy with consistency groups. z/VM can only > do serial FLASHCOPY commands... > > Scott Rohling > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Cohen, Sam <sam.co...@lrs.com> wrote: > > > Scott, > > > > You don't need Copy Services Manager, you just need a storage subsystem > > capable and enabled for Global Mirror, which is independent and outside > of > > any operating system. z/VM disks can be part of a consistency group, > just > > as VSE, z/OS, Linux or TPF disks can. > > > > Sam > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > > Date: 11/11/16 08:20 (GMT-07:00) > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: zLinux backup solutions > > > > While z/VM can't use consistency groups -- z/OS and zLinux can with CSM > > (Copy Services Manager) .... I'm currently involved in a project > where > > we have this running on a zLinux guest to be able to flash with > consistency > > groups. > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, 11/10/2016 at 09:12 GMT, "Ponte, Douglas C. (JMD)" > > > <douglas.c.po...@usdoj.gov> wrote: > > > > Fullpack volume backups ---- can be run daily, weekly and monthly, > > using > > > JCL with automation tools > > > > (existing on z/OS already, e.g. BMC Control-M or Tivoli Automation). > > > This should be done with all > > > > z/VM and zLinux volumes. > > > > > > > > In the full volume backup cases, stopping/shutting down is not always > > > necessary, albeit it may be > > > > good practice to at least quiesce when it comes to DB?s and heavy use > > > servers. (e.g. DB2, Oracle, > > > > etc) > > > > > > WARNING: To do this reliably, you need software that is capable of > > > establishing an I/O consistency group. If you want to FLASHCOPY the > > > volumes and sequentially backup the volume copies, that's ok, but do > NOT > > > just sequentially copy the live volumes of a running z/VM system. (If > > you > > > wouldn't do it to a running z/OS system, don't do it to any other > > system.) > > > This process is intimately tied to your DR strategy, too, so get it > > > right. > > > > > > If you have databases, use the backup software for the database. If > > > you're using hardware replication, be sure that it's supported by the > > > database vendor. > > > > > > Some people take a too-casual approach to backups and DR. I too often > > > hear "Don't worry, I'm doing it from z/OS." as though z/OS has magical > > > powers over z/VM and Linux. Don't fall into that trap. That way there > > be > > > dragons. > > > > > > Alan Altmark > > > > > > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant > > > Lab Services System z Delivery Practice > > > IBM Systems & Technology Group > > > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > > > office: 607.429.3323 > > > mobile; 607.321.7556 > > > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > > > IBM Endicott > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or > > > visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
